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PieFed
I just want more things on Peertube.
I really want to love peertube and use it but the transition is hard. I feel bad for "wasting" server space and compute and when I view the video on peertube I'm making my favorite creators gain less traction on YouTube which directly affects their income and growth.
Some of them can be supported through Patreon and they’re getting way more money than through YouTube.
But it’s through that it lacks content and it’s also difficult to find content on peertube.
PeerTube has a search engine : https://sepiasearch.org Does that not work well ?
It needs a recommendation algorithm. Search is simply not enough to find videos you may like.
Search would be enough if it had the content library of YouTube.
I still have to really try it, but last time I typed « PlayStation » and there was almost no result..maybe it’s just the lack of content though..
Hmm, I've tried, 251 results found: 244 videos
I would give so much money to Patreons if I wasn’t broke myself 😅
Give what you can and if you can’t it’s also okay.
I’m only giving 1$ a month to the Linux Experiment, but, according to him, that’s way more than what he would get from me watching his videos on YouTube.
I’m also donating 100$ a year to many open source projects, but I might have to give up because of financial troubles too..
Honestly, I’m murdering the productivity of every channel I watch anyways with uBlock origin and sponsorBlock, so I don’t think it’d be much worse
That's not as bad because the amount of money they get for 1 view is less than a cent and the sponsor still pays. But if youtube recommends me a video from a creator I like who has only 5k subs and I don't watch it because I saw it on peertube youtube might think the video is bad because the channels audience isn't watching it.
They could choose a different business model to get revenue from their videos that doesn't rely on google or the current model where personal privacy is the commodity. It could also be a difficult transition. Is it worth it to them? To you?
Shame that all those business models require US centric payment processors to actually get paid.
I'm not in the US and my choices for actually getting money into my bank account are PayPal or Stripe, neither of which have policies that permit the distribution of electronic data or alternatively donations without being a registered charity.
Neither has dispute resolution procedures that go beyond "you broke the rules and we're keeping your money", and "sorry, that was a fraudulent card and we're taking the money back, plus a fee, and the fraudster keeps the goods", and finally "our word is final and we're now closing your account without disclosing why".
So, yeah, good luck with that.
Source: I've spent months looking for alternatives and as far as I can tell, they just don't exist.
I agree, peer tube's biggest issues so far besides the storage or the fact that there are almost no peer tube servers which offer user accounts (which isn't needed explicitly to watch videos but makes the experience much better), and also the fact that there aren't really any good apps to use it with that aren't outdated or abandoned.
You know that PeerTube has a build-in video import tool ? It can import Youtube / Dailymotion / Vimeo channels or playlists.
https://docs.joinpeertube.org/use/channel-sync
I think that downloading YouTube videos is technically illegal unless you have been the uploader of the videos. But with PeerTube you can create private channels which you could share with friends or maybe even paid subscribers I guess.
Oh I didn't know that! Do you know any open instance that has this feature enabled ?
Don't know. I guess you could ask the admin of friendly instances, or self-hosted or ask friends to self-host. Self-hosting a PeerTube server is not that difficult and "Big Storage" on-line is not that expensive anymore.
ArchiveOfOurOwn
I wish they had an official presence in the Fediverse.
I kind of miss seeing the tweets on the homepage and think to myself that Mastodon or one of its forked versions would be the ideal replacement.
I would love this so much, I looked around to see if anyone had opened an official issue for that yet, but I saw nothing on their Jira
i would have the entire internet go back to being protocols instead of proprietary platforms
I'd rather we just ditch algorithms and go back to it being random/chronological feeds.
I wish algorithms were opt-in, transparent, and allowed choice (whether by choosing an algorithm over another, or customizing parameters).
If this were the case, I'd have no issue with algos.
JellyFin
Jellyfin federated would be so cool. Maybe a peertube front-end could achieve something similar.
FBI would arrest jellyfin devs so fast before they can hit the release button.
Craigslist / Facebook Marketplace
That’s a good one. The photomarket on reddit was the main reason I was hesitant to shut down my account. And eBay is way too expensive and unfair for sellers.
Forums, facebook groups (but not owned by meta), Letterboxd, Amazon (without amazon)
Lemmy is kinda close to forums and groups. But I do agree I prefer that format over the Reddit-like format.
All of em, really. I don't see much of a reason why the vast majority of platforms wouldn't benefit from it, except for maybe an argument around it allowing the creation of larger and larger echo chambers, but that's probably fine as long as it's managed to only be to a certain degree.
4chan I guess. It doesn't have to be 4chan specifically, I just want a federated ActivityPub image board
It's not really that fundamentally different from the idea of Lemmy, the interface is just different but the idea of having communities and posts in the communities is the same.
The thing that would be tricky and would probably have the most friction would be anonymous posting since that's where things get really ugly regarding moderation and user conduct, since a good amount are just going to be spammers and many others will be trolls and malicious users.
True, anonymous posting is very difficult to implement safely and would probably place a huge burden on volunteer Lemmy moderators.
Yeah that would be very difficult to implement safely, and probably wouldn't be worth the effort since the Federated model means that signing up for an account somewhere on the Fediverse is much easier already.
Anonymous posting might have been a necessary evil on the early internet before you had all these Federated servers, but nowadays having other servers fills the role of granting easier access since you can sign up to another one where that process may be easier.
The only way of anonymously posting I could imagine on a federated image board would be to use an account on some other Fediverse platform (e.g. Mastodon, Firefish, Mbin, etc.) and to have the name of the account hidden for anonymous posts. That could maybe work, idk. Would be pretty cool tho
I don't think that would really work since in order to make it anonymous it would need to be hidden from the other servers as well which would cause issues with moderation since if it's never dealt with On the origin server a person could cause a lot of trouble with it, yeah you could have so that it would only be visible by moderators and admins but that also doesn't really work if admins can view it since anyone can set up a server.
What is the practical difference between that and what we have here? Genuinely curious.
I don't know, can't really describe it, but 4chan just has a different vibe. I love Lemmy, but it's closer to Reddit than to 4chan.
There's already one, I don't remember the name and is ultra dead albeit
I tried so many different search queries and couldn't find anything regarding a Fediverse image board
Booru-style Image Boards like rule34
Bruh
The only thing that keeps me tied to any Meta platform is the Facebook marketplace. It is the *de facto* method of buying and selling used goods in a sustainable fashion.
If there was *any* alternative, especially a federated one, I'd switch over in a heartbeat.
Flohmarkt
DeviantArt - I like separation between art, literature, and regular status updates, and the ability to group posts in your inbox into folders by who posted them. Or, more realistically, any of the various furry sites that work on a similar model and have less potential for cultural conflict.
LinkedIn.
It's one of the last social media I have. Benefits outweigh cons, but I still would like to get rid of it
What are the benefits of Linkedin? Ive never seen anyone mention it positively
I do B2B hardware and software projects. I hate sales and advertising but I will post something I'm working on about once a week on my personal LinkedIn. It's amazing how many customers reference that stuff when I have my first meeting.
I found my latest job there. Some companies tend to mostly post in LinkedIn rather than other job boards. I guess it's probably country dependent
I've never received a job directly from it, but I've had prospective employers search my profile.
It can be like Facebook if you don’t know how to use it. It can suck.
But I found all my jobs thanks to this website so I can’t complain.
I've been wanting to create this but I don't have enough experience making federated anything. Which parts of LinkedIn would you want replicated the most?
Just being able to see interesting job posts in my field and area
But if you would like to contribute to Fediverse project, I would say that the current link aggregator options would have more impact: - if you know Rust: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy - if you know Java: https://github.com/sublinks - if you know PHP: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin/ - if you know Python: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/
So is kbin unofficially dead now?
EDIT: Huh, checked the GitHub repo's contributions graph ... and yea, nothing since the end of last year. Is Ernest ok?
By comparison, mbin has multiple significant contributors ... nice to see.
Yes, that's why I always link Mbin nowadays
Genealogy sites.
Is there even a genealogy site that is not owned by the Genealogical Mafia i.e. Ancestry? AFAIK WikiTree hasn't sold out yet.
Second Life.
As in you don't have to pay upkeep of a region/sim when you can host it yourself. But you can still rent/buy parcels on other user or LL hosted region/SIM. In the later scenario you would pay the hoster a regular upkeep.
There is OpenSim i think
Github
Forgejo?
Forgejo having Federation enabled would be great since it would allow people with Codeberg accounts to contribute in self-hosted repos without having to apply or beg for accounts on them just to submit issues and pulls.
They are working on it: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59
It's been a while though...I hope it's coming soon.
Gitlab has some federation in experimental phases right now too!
https://tl.net The old Team Liquid forums, still the best place to discuss StarCraft
And I guess if Reddit was ActivityPub that would be good too
Nebula.
Strava. Sharing workouts, leader boards with friends, challenging friends on goals. Maybe even badges.
I wanna make a game that's federated. No idk what that would mean.
Have you seen fedi games? https://games.rerere.org/
Maybe each server is hosting a different area in the game, and they are connected by portals. Would need a way to transfer users and their inventory to another server.
Usenet
guilded?
Meetup / events, the cultural calendar of physical events should be free from platforms! Facebook used to be good for this in its heyday, because of its wide adoption, but now they are chasing «engagement» and ad revenue, and is no longer a good tool for public, so the timelime is full of crap etc.
It already exists.
https://joinmobilizon.org/en/
Twitter.
I know this is the “wrong answer” but I had always used Twitter to keep tabs on local government agencies, newspapers, reporters, restaurants, bars, events, concerts, sports teams, etc. Not to mention all the accounts that pertain to my hobby’s and interests.
I’ve used bird.makeup but it’s not reliable if it works at all. Some agencies, like our transit system and streets department, will post on one thing on their website and something else on instagram or twitter (many have stopped using twitter after the api change). RSS is fine for some things but not everything. I haven’t been using instagram for years because of advertising and the algorithmic timeline. I at least need lists.
Really, the right answer here for my needs is that all these groups need to join the fediverse. I just don’t see that happening.
Or maybe I should say I wish the “existing platform” of my city government would start their own instance.
Yes, it's a problem. Even several open source projects use Tw(X)tter as their main outlet. A few years ago one project even used it to share an important security update! They must have posted it in their Discourse forum as well but I don't visit that often. I stumbled upon the important post by coincidence with Nitter (Nitter is declared dead since a few months). Since then, lesson learned, I use some notification.
Agreed. Some people stay there because "everyone is there", or their favorite VIPs are there, or people stay there because they think they should fight the bad things that happened to it from within :/ Sad.
That would be cool.Governments, at least in the country where I live in, need to make an effort to be transparent and reach out to their citizens without creating insurmountable barriers.Start an on-line petition and getting people to sign it, and share with the local government ?
yeah, it's such a shame that people think X is the right place to share important updates.
It fucking absolutely is NOT!
Yesterday I went to look up Trakts X profile to see whether there are issues with their API. X shows posts from 2020-2023, but nothing from 2024 even though there was a tweet from 2 days ago.
X is dead and should officially be declared as such.
I don’t think it’s anywhere near dead when anyone you’d want to hear from still uses it. It’s amazing the amount of times I’m looking for an update for something and if you don’t have an X account you won’t be getting that information as it’s blocked from view without one. I still haven’t recreated an account but I’ve came close a few times or used what few nitters are left.
Both Germany and the EU have their own Mastodon instances for official announcements, social.bund.de and social.network.europa.eu
There's also an instance for the German public broadcasting service, ard.social
I wish more countries would do this