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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Same with groups related to the Gaza genocide.
Ror this one I think they advertised somewhere that the groups would still be available if you download the apk from their website, I did this and I can still see the hamas group
iirc they need to comply with google store policies, but when downloading the apk directly that is not relevant.
Great, I didn't know that. They 'ban' the Russian news channels that way as well.
Hama's has a public telegram channel? That seems like a legal liability
That sucks, i don't know if a XMPP client + Tor/Orbot would be a good alternative
Telegram is used like a weird social network with channels and big groupchats and search. XMPP can't do that yet.
Movim is sort of like a decentralized social media space built atop XMPP
You mean, with things similar to TG channels? Will try. Still answering specific messages with referencing them, referencing specific posts in channels and so on don't seem to be in XMPP functionality yet.
I have no idea what channels are… Is this threading?
It's like a blog with comments under every post.
I think something like Simplex Chat is easier to use.
https://simplex.chat/
You know what, in my head I think I want a whole new messenger.
There's an indexer that acts as a phone book, but at the same time, people can bypass that by directly adding contacts.
All chat history and groups are peer 2 peer and are stored like torrents with the extended backup being self-hostable.
Recent chat history (up to 30 days) can be stored on the indexer, though they're encrypted and so the server is blind to what's in them. They should explicitly be opt-in.
Whenever a user adds a new client (device), all conversations recipients should have to approve in order for them to see the chat history.
It should also have all the bells and whistles, like emoji, stickers, groups, channels, etc.
I have been thinking of something like this too, the thing in common between us is that neither of us has the competency, the time and the persistence to make this happen.
Sometimes putting the ideas we have out there makes a difference. While we lack the competency, perhaps someone that sees this will and it will inspire them to bring something to life.
Well, those having the competency have likely already thought of such a thing, and possibly already busy with it.
I'm hopeful for Locutus as a platform for making such applications.
Just seen that they've renamed themselves as Freenet. It's a shame that they're using Reddit rather than Lemmy though.
Why though? In case of a public chat or a chat with at least few dozens of users it'll already be excessive if it could work at all.
Like really P2P or E2E? Because I know at least one chat app that is serverless but doesn't involve E2E apparently - tox. E2E is an overkill for big group chats because it means you have to re-encrypt every message for every new user for them to see it. Else if you rely on just a fixed shared key it's not E2E anymore (which will make some people sad and hate your app).
This is only possible because Telegram is service as a software substitute.