Stormy Daniels testimony reveals the triumph of #MeToo

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Flying Squid

I don't know that I agree. I feel they should have been more blunt about it. "Although Ms. Daniels did not call it rape, based on her interpretation of events, it would be considered rape if she had agreed to press charges." Because it would be.

Lokiya

It would be considered rape if the person accused was a poor, non connected person with no promising future.

antlion

It would be considered rape if the alleged rapist was poor, or any race other than white. It would probably not be considered rape if the perpetrator was a white man (especially Christian), or a woman.

APassenger

Thank you. I just had this conversation with my wife.

Completely agree. Conviction would be hard though. Whether that should be true or not, I think you'd need a specific jury composition to get that conviction.

Flying Squid

Conviction would be impossible since the statute of limitations have passed, but that's hardly the point.

MrShankles

I once had an encounter that I never considered to be rape... just emotionally/psychologically uncomfortable. Until I was telling someone about it, and then it was like the act of hearing my own words made me realize what happened.

Thankfully, it wasn't very detrimental to my psyche... but I still don't much like talking about it, or really thinking about it. Beacuse it turns out, most people would consider that rape; including me when I looked from the outside-in. Abuse takes many forms. Mine just came in the form of emotional that led to physical, and I didn't even realize what happened for most of that day.

Flying Squid

I regularly look back on the sex I have had, even with my wife, and wondered, "did I ever do something that would count as rape?" I don't *think* I did. I sincerely hope not, of course. I really *think* I always had consent from my partner when doing anything sexual, but I can't *prove* it. And I don't have contact with enough of them to ask if I really had the courage to ask, which I don't.

So did I ever force someone to have sex with me? I don't *believe* I ever did, but it's possible. And if I ever did, all I can say to that person, if they ever let me know, is that I am deeply sorry for what I did and I can't ever make up for it, but I would be willing to try.

Optional

There's been over two dozen accusations against Trump of everythingfrom harassment to outright rape. Taken together, the stories paint a picture of a man constantly assessing how far he can take the coercion without facing potential legal repercussions. In the story found to be true by a New York civil jury, E. Jean Carroll described how Trump got her alone in a department store dressing room before, as the judge recounted, "Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape.'"

andrew

Well, when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Milk_Sheikh

I still can’t fathom how that didn’t just immediately tank his candidacy for the even remotely religious-right - what absolute rank and disgusting hypocrisy.

JackbyDev

Because they believe abortion is murder. Nothing will ever be worse than "killing babies" in their eyes.

pearsaltchocolatebar

That's because they're all awful people.

INeedMana

From what I understand, for them it's her fault

MystikIncarnate

That's kind of how Trump operates all the time.