Politics gets in the way of pop as Israel’s war in Gaza overshadows Eurovision Song Contest

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The Uncanny Observer

Oh shit, sorry our freaking out about babies being murdered by Israel is disturbing your music, you fucknozzles.

katy ✨

a) politics is always involved in eurovision, especially when it comes to country voting

b) this is karma for that god awful chicken song winning over eleni foureia in 2018

floofloof

If you call genocide "politics", yes. Some of us would say Israel's ongoing genocidal slaughter of tens of thousands of children and adults is what "gets in the way of pop".

funkless_eck

people have bitched about politics in eurovision since the start. you can predict half the scores based on politics as it is.

Flying Squid , edited

I just watched Israel's entry, 'Hurricaine' by Eden Golan. I realize this is a low bar for Eurovision, but wow is that a shit song.

The video has some hilarious dancing though. I don't *think* it was supposed to be funny, but it's definitely funny.

If you must: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJYn09tuPw4 (It's Eurovision's YouTube channel if you're worried about generating revenue for an Israeli company.)

Edit: Croatia has a song named Rim Tim Tagi Dim by a guy who goes by Baby Lasagna and it's really funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBrVNZtnys

Donjuanme

Did the dancers not get to hear the bpm of the song they were dancing to? And then ballet... What an overproduced collage of disaster.

ickplant

The Croatian song is way better, lol. Such a banger.

mynachmadarch

I haven't heard it at all so I can't comment, but I do know they were forced to re-write it pretty late in the game to turn down the more obvious anti-palastine political messages in it after several countries threatened to boycott this year. It might have already sucked, haven't heard either version, but a late re-write changing it can't have helped.

Flying Squid

Like in the song itself? Anti-Palestine shit? Seriously?

mynachmadarch

The original was titled "October Rain" (a reference to an October Hamas attack),
had lyrics like:
Hours and hours
and flowers
Life is no game for the cowards (most I've heard felt it in context to be saying screw Palestine, they started it and hide in their holes killing, let's bomb them all)

And the Israeli delegate to Eurovision (the board member guy, not the artist) said they were sending a song all Israelis could connect to.

So yeah, my albeit western interpretation is it was very anti-palastine, pro-israel

Flying Squid

Regardless of the interpretation, that's pretty tone-deaf of them (no pun intended) if they thought that was going to win them the competition.

Krackalot

That's the problem with holy wars, the perpetrators think they're doing God's work.

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Flying Squid

Sorry, you can't keep politics aside when Israel is competing.

I hope they get nul points though.

AshMan85

Yeah, acts of genocide should over shadow a student music competition, u callus assholes

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MALMÖ, Sweden — Behind the music, color and high camp, geopolitics has never been far from the surface at the Eurovision Song Contest, be it through subtly political lyrics, boycotts or the outright ban on Russia after it invaded Ukraine two years ago.

And as thousands of people flock to the coastal city for the event, large protests are taking place over Israel’s participation in the competition, including on Thursday, ahead of Israeli representative Eden Golan's semi-final performance.

The decision by the contest’s organizer, the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), to ban Russia after it invaded Ukraine was something she agreed with, she said, adding that she thought it was hypocritical to let Israel compete while it waged war in Gaza.

While they did not demand a ban for Israel, artists from the U.K., Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Lithuania, Norway, Portugal, San Marino and Switzerland signed a joint statement calling for a cease-fire in Gaza, where almost 35,000 people have been killed since the start of the Israel-Hamas war.

Having initially balked at the idea, Israeli public broadcaster Kan, which manages the country’s entry, eventually amended the song, now called “Hurricane,” following an intervention from President Isaac Herzog.

Yair said some artists had tried to skirt the ban on overtly political statements by using more subtle elements in staging or costume, and he said he expected Israel would try in some way to commemorate Hamas' Oct. 7 attack on the country.


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Iceblade

I just hope there won't be a terror attack in Malmö during Eurovision. There's a huge amount of police and security involved, but Malmö also has a problem with islamic extremism.

Flying Squid

Worrying about what Muslims *might* do while Israel *is* committing a genocide sounds like somewhat misplaced priorities.

Iceblade , edited

I'll second what @Tobberone@lemm.ee wrote, and also elaborate.

Violence from religious extremists has been a problem in Sweden for several years now, and the war in Gaza has escalated the situation even further. I've a family member living in a larger city whom I worry about - particularly because they choose to be open about their jewish identity. There have also been threats against the university I study/work at, and against public transit - one of the many reasons that I no longer use it. As such, I tend to keep these sorts of considerations in mind.

However, I'm glad you don't have to worry about such things.

Flying Squid

I don't "have" to worry about such things because I don't bother worrying about things that haven't happened and that I have no evidence will happen.

"There are lots of extremists here" doesn't mean "one of them is going to bomb Eurovision."

Iceblade , edited

...I don't bother worrying about things that haven't happened and that I have no evidence will happen.

Two known foiled attacks in Sweden during 2023;

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/terrorplanerna-mot-sverige-som-har-stoppats

Along with an attack in Brussels specifically targeting swedish citizens (two shot dead)

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/kristersson-m-allt-pekar-pa-att-terrordadet-var-riktat-mot-sverige

...and plenty of other attacks in the past ten years.

Furthermore, Säpo (security police) estimates there are roughly two thousand salafists in Sweden willing to use violence to overthrow democracy and institute sharia law.

https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_i_Sverige#Radikalisering_och_salafism

For context, given the Swedish population of 10 million, that's roughly one per five thousand. Quick math makes it ten in my hometown and thirty in the city where I work/go to university - odds are that I've met at least one.

It has happened and there are plenty of people willing to perpetrate new attacks. I'm willing to bet a lot of money that it will happen again, maybe not at eurovision, but it will happen. So, yes, I worry and I take precautions (similarly to how I wouldn't walk in certain parts of town at night).

Flying Squid

What precautions exactly?

AmosBurton

Yes, one of them will one day blow something up out of frustration. That's what extreme Islam looks like.

Flying Squid

Okay? And? What's the point of worrying about what they're going to do when? You can't predict or stop it.

I live in the U.S., land of mass shootings and *many* religious extremists of many stripes. I don't spend my time worrying about where and when the next mass shooting will be. What's the point? What good does it do?

Tobberone

No, we need to be able to keep two thoughts in our heads at the same time or we are bound to repeat the mistakes. Terror and oppression is terrible regardless of what the purpetrator and the victim are called.