PieFedGermany's SAP Software Giant To Abandon Diversity Measures
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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/63714263
German software giant SAP will cut several of its diversity programmes to abide by new requirements of the US administration, a spokesman told AFP on Sunday, confirming reports in the local press.
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besseljAs a German company, they should know a thing or two about appeasing facists
A big company just doesn't care, its about money, not ideology.
And for the part regarding "its a german company"... even that argument doesn't work. Every major corporation that was involved in the Holocaust ist today not only still existing, but most are thriving.
Apart from a little, externally driven restructuring in their real estate departments, the companies that collaborated with our facists back then came all out on top in the end and thrived. If there's a lesson in there, its not the one we'd like to see.
I guess a company that makes garbage software has to have garbage policies too.
How is it that companies known for garbage software such as Microsoft and SAP dominate their domains? Apparently software quality or UX is not even in the top 10 of what you need to run a successful business. I guess Thiel was onto something with his "become a monopoly as quickly as possible and then squeeze the customers out when they cannot run away", the concept is much older than his fascist version of it.
The great thing is that others help them with the squeezing. Migrating a modern, manufacturing company to OSS alternatives in the backend is somewhat possible but labour intensive, in the frontend, nope, won't happen. Way too much software, from CAD to extremely task specific stuff will only work when there MS beneath it.
Well that's the platform effect kicking in. Once you ascend to become the environment, you are above petty little competition, you are the system.
I don't know but maybe it explains why it's impossible to not use either AWS or Azure at work.
I can't be authoritative, but I suspect it's like an enterprise business culture thing. The world is bigger than we think and enterprise folks see software and it's usage differently than smaller or even younger folks.
As an ex-employee who actually found them great in that matter, I am extremely disappointed. But they're not the only ones to do this. My current employer, an IT consulting company, is doing the same thing to get contracts.
C.R.E.A.M it seems.
hauiDespicable.
What does the cream acronym mean?
They try to frame it as "legal requirement" while US doesn't have any legal right or even an ability to verify this.
All of this is just pandering and corruption.
I believe that the article is talking about the US-based SAP company. Not the German based one. I think the German SAP will still honor german law.
Yes but even within US the company is not required to obey this executive order in any capacity. From what I understand it's completely meaningless and can be safely ignored by anyone but the federal government.
Ah ok. Thanks.
Weak.
Good thing everyone I know has been switching to Odoo from SAP. Hopefully Odoo doesn't bow to Orange Oberkapo
Odoo isn't as prevalent in the US yet I believe. They have more to lose by pissing off EU.
SAP is a strong contender for the second worst thing Germany has ever done.
Millions affected
Enduring unimaginable suffering
Many Germans voluntarily supported it
...SAP is pretty messed up. Still better than PeopleSoft
PeopleSoft that was raped to give birth to Phoenix...
I don't understand how companies can screw up an HR and pay system so badly.
They built payroll systems. Then they decided to add on frankenmodules done by people who have never worked in HR. Also, to be fair, the world got wicked complicated in HR the last 2 decades, but yes it should be better. Many of the newer startups are designed for people but have less payroll configurability--they work for most small-midsized companies that don't have high complexity and save eons in training and user pain.
Fucking Sanduhr Anzeige Programm.
Hop over the border to Belgium and get Odoo. At least it's open core and easy to customize, cheaper to run.
Wonder how that's gonna work since like 90% of SAP consultants are Indian. Lol. (Am Indian and have worked with SAP before)
If that's true, technically that's still a lack of diversity.
I guess I will be cuttting my SAP stock out of my portfolio by requirement of my conscience. It’s so little that they won’t care, but it would leave a sour taste in my mouth. Truly disappointing.
Lame af, get your shit together.
If those programs were required by law then they will get sued by the state no?
These aren't normal times here in the US, so it's hard to say.
The federal government sent an executive order that all companies doing business with the government need to remove their diversity, equity, and accessibility programs in other to keep or win contracts. There is no legal requirement because this administration has been fundamentally avoiding legislation and ruling by presidential dictate instead. It's probably not legally binding, but so far nobody has been able to force the government to obey the law.
Of course its not legally binding. The decisions of the US gov are completely irrelevant when it comes to german law.
Obviously, but countries require companies doing business with their government or within their borders to follow their laws. In this particular case I don't think it's binding even within the US because of how it was demanded.
Why do we have DEI in Europa? We are all white?!