You are born in a city that has been walled off from the rest of the world, and you've been told your entire life that the outside is dangerous, do you think you would ever visit the outside world?
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Would you curiosity win? Or would the fear of death win?
If you've watched Avatar, I'm talking about city like Ba Sing Se, but IRL.spoiler
No
Likely not, especially if it’s the same regular life where I have lots of responsibilities and have to work to live.
No. I like to avoid risk.
Are the people saying it is dangerous saying why it is dangerous or being vague about it? Are they honest and trustworthy about the things inside the city or are they unreliable liars?
If it is a vague, unspecified threat from unreliable people then I'm certainly going out. If there are details and the people are otherwise trustworthy I'm staying in.
If they are untrustworthy or trustworthy but vague, it would come down to whether there is a reason to go outside other than finding out if they are lying.
No.
I think there are too many factors to account for to give a good answer.
But realistically: If the walled city was stable (relative to what I knowz I can only compare things to what I know and have experienced) and my life was alright or better then or course I would stay.
If I had kids in that city I would probably stay.
If it was a shitty life inside those walls, of course I would find a way to stealthily leave.
Nice try, raider. I'm staying in the vault.
Would you clean?
I want to go out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMhL9NZ0Kdw
Depends on if the colossal Titan and armored Titan breaks through the wall. And I become radicalized at the sight of my mother being eaten that forces me to bring about the downfall of all humanity.
"I want to kill all titans!"
ended up trying to annihilate most of humanity
(Knife goose meme)
What are the walls made of? WHAT ARE THE WALLS MADE OF MOTHERFUCKER??
I'd suspect there's something I'm not being told but I wouldn't be brave enough to find out
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Same, I've learned the hard way ignorance is bliss. If I am content I wouldn't try. What's the saying "As long as someone has hope, they have everything to lose" or something.
depends on how difficult it is to leave?
If you look at space.
We are on a walled sphere, and my entire life I've been told I can't survive in space.
Would I visit space? Sure.. but I can't get there.
"walled sphere"...
Right, right...
Ice wall around the flat circle maybe... But I've been told I can't find out anyway, too dangerous.
Shit. There are no walls keeping me in, and no one is telling me the world outside is dangerous, but I barely ever leave anyway. When I do leave, it's only to a small handful of relatively close places where I feel comfortable.
It’s called New Jersey since those people can’t pump their own gas, they can’t venture into the rest of America haha.
I mean, they could. They would just have to take a bus lol
That’s funny
I am disabled and unable to drive thus holding a proper job is difficult.
i've been on an effective island with 'visits' to 'the outside' on rare occasions and largely when picking up things from lowes or family functions.
What you ask is not a hypothetical for me.
OP go watch the movie The Village
Or pretty recent, The Silo. Its very good but it's mostly* only on APPLE TV
Yeah Silo is pretty good, second season was a little slow but still good.
Also it's based on books!
I’d probably go insane from living around that many humans. Normal cities are awful for me, I can’t imagine being in one I can never leave.
The new neighbourhood layouts are really nice. You'd think there would be a lot of foot traffic but it's not really crowded. And with actual concrete construction, you hear so little you may as well not have neighbours.
I’d still know they’re there, and I still can’t see the stars, and there’s no wildlife or untamed land.
Depends on how small or hard/easy life is there. I would argue that there is a sweet spot where if life is just hard enough to keep you busy but comfortable enough to keep you satisfied, most would never care. Too hard and there will be those who would take the risk, too comfortable and there would be those who would seek it out.
Personally if I lived my exact same life but in that city, I would go out at least once.
For sure. I'd volunteer to be the first person on Venus knowing it would be a death sentence.
Depends on how high you are. (In the atmosphere, physically, not just totally blazed.)
Should We Colonize Venus Instead of Mars?
At a specific altitude, the atmosphere of Venus is the secondary most hospitable place in the Solar System after Earth. You'd "only" need an oxygen mask and protective gear from the acid rain iirc. So like pressure and heat would be within human tolerance. I don't remember well watch the video.
At least you'd be remembered forever 🫡
I'll never forget whoever that was!
This is the plot of The Village by M Night Shyamalan. Good movie.
I would leave if I had to get medicine. And was blind.
Depends if there were dumb lumbering giants outside that would eat me, 'Attack on Titan' style.
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Depends on how the city is run. If it's anything like Paranoia's Alpha Complex, I'd probably die before even getting the chance to think about doing anything treasonous like that
Shit, I'm the fifth clone in the batch.
Wha'd the four before me do?
That's classified information. Repeating any of the actions of your previous clones is treason.
Well. Darn...
{note added: Prior clones seen as traitors and or mutants. potentially also communists. Do not trust any fellow troubleshooters, you are seen as disposable.]
Got "Freedom Cities" on the mind, eh?
It depends on a number of factors.
How thorough is the isolation/how “high” are the walls? Can I perceive the world outside the walls in any way?
How good is the propaganda?
Do I have anything to lose other than my life? Do I have a community I care about within the city? A family? Children?
I'm not moving out of my Fallout Vault, unless Overseer approves or Water Chip fails.
Is anyone actively trying to stop me from leaving? Is there any punishment for doing so?
Is the "dangerous" outside because of something invisible, like a plague? Or is the "dangerous" a nebulous claim of "nobody goes out there"
I think plenty of people would try it just to say they did, just like the real world.
Personally? Probably not. Im not much of a rebel or confident enough to push a boundary like that
But we kinda have something like that irl.
If i remember right
The Amish think technology is evil but some leave and embrace the modern world despite that
I have always questioned authority, so I would probably sneak out but not go very far.
I thought you might have been thinking about Transformers One.
If everything I need is in the city, I wouldn't leave. I would only leave if pushed to.
I'd tell myself I'm going to do it, but chicken out.
It depends on the danger I was told about. If it was poisoned gas like Bad Boy Bubby then I don't think so. If it was just there are dangerous or violent people out there then maybe.
If there were rumours that the outside world wasn't actually dangerous that might have swayed me when I was younger but probably not now.
Nah, I'd probably believe it, unless things inside the city were so bad I had some reason to doubt.
There is no war in (that avatar city I can't remember)
All it takes is for leadership to slip up one time to start questioning everything else they told you. Like learning the tooth fairy doesn't exist, casting doubt on the easter bunny and Santa Claus - except there's incentives for belief. Would I go on with the charade while harbouring doubts? Escape entirely? Depends.
At the very least I'd carve a glory hole in the wall.
That you, Morgoth? Stop trying to trick me into revealing the location of Gondolin.
Like they're gonna let me stay in the city.
Absolutely. I was teaching English with Mormons in Kiev, UA in 2014 (as a volunteer, I am not Mormon). The nonprofit we were with stressed to us that we should absolutely, under no circumstance, go to Maidan (city center). This was when the revolution was just starting. Of course I went anyway.
At least when I was in Ukraine at that time, all the discord was contained within Maidan and the eastern regions. Life elsewhere went on as usual. I'm not sure if it is the same now. But it felt like going between two worlds.
As soon as I had the chance.
I have a real problem with authority and being told what I can and cannot do.
I would probably go to test it if at all possible, especially if there is a way to come back.
In real live I already immigrated 3 times to a different country and before I had kids I was even dreaming about going to Mars even if it would have been om a one way ticket.
City? Probably yes. Country? Probably no.
It really depends on the Size of the "cage" and what it has to "offer" to me. (how entertained I am, how well-off I am)
Y’all should watch Silo.
Assuming I'm the same person I am today, then I would probably want to know more. "Dangerous" isn't a cause it's an effect; I want to know why it's dangerous. Then I want to know what can be done to change that.
It depends on how sus the people telling me that seemed. I would definitely question, but the desire to see what is on the outside would probably be inversely proportional to how content I was with life on the inside.
If I was like, "This place fucking sucks," and they said, "TS, there's nowhere else to go," I might take my chances.
Curiosity definitely. I love to travel and I’ve gone to places that were fairly dangerous. No active war zones, thankfully, or places with incurable disease outbreaks or anything like that. But I’m less bothered by risk than almost anyone I know.
It's not illegal to just jump off the earth into space, but we've been told it's dangerous out there and we can't breathe and it's too cold blah blah blah
But I'm pretty happy down there so I don't feel the need to meet with the Vortigaunts past the artificial black veil our government created to isolate us from the intergalactic gerontocracy
I'm too american to listen to what I'm told. I'm gonna get eaten by the titans, sorry everyone
Considering that I ended up getting banished from my personal bubble, I'm betying that I would have ended up on the outside of that wall anyway, so yeah!
The person that you are now is not the person that you would be if you grew up in that situation.
That me is a stranger to this me I have no basis to guess what that stranger might do.
We talking about Gaza or Pyongyang?