PieFedUnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect thanks people for mail on new website
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In some dark corners, this killer is being hailed as a hero.
By which he means all over the fucking country, which is unfortunately so covered in darkness there are no bright corners left.
Luigi is a global hero. I'm European and think most people of the world can relate since they experience the same consequences of (ruthless) capitalism.
Honduran here. My GF and I are getting a Saint Luigi portrait hung up on the wall. Dude's seriously an icon.
iAvicennaEuropean here and i see him as a hero. Many people here do.
Even Rednote is full of Luigi memes in chinese of supporters from china.
This was my favorite that i saved:
Here are some:
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DUMBASSIn some dark corners, in some light corners, hell there's a dude over there hailing him as a hero right now.
antlionHey PN Gov. Shapiro, it’s “alleged killer”. It should be a crime to speak of the presumed innocent like that.
Random_Character_AAlthough I don't approve violence, trend today everywhere is that countries are run like companies and common folk, especially poor ones, are considered as "garbage it the way". Export industry being the nearest and dearest.
There should be a way to return the societies focus back to citizens. By the time AGI comes along this should be fixed or common people will be royally fucked.
I approve of the defense of innocent people against powers that aim to kill them.
Violence is justifiable when the alternative is to be killed.
UHC kills innocent people. That's their business model.
FlashMobOfOneI approve of the defense of innocent people against powers that aim to kill them.
Agreed. I see no difference between murder and institutionalized murder.
Unfortunately history says the only way to return society back to the citizens *is* violence. There's nothing else the oppressors will listen to.
SLVRDRGN*"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend"* - Faramir
jagged_circleI went to the donate page, and it has a pray button. Wtf is this shit? Now I've seen everything
RememberTheApollo_Givesendgo is a right-wing christian crowdfunding site. So a “thoughts and payers” option is right on the nose.
Thoughts and prayers for Luigi
JackFrostNColaI scoffed at the "thoughts and payers upvote" but perhaps it will get more support from the people who wont/cant afford to donate and further show the level of support he is getting from the general public
Thank you for this link!
Sure. Just saving you a click. The link was copied from the article.
paraphrandThe rotten core of America’s corporate oligarchy bleeds through every paragraph. A man allegedly guns down a healthcare CEO over systemic rot, and the machine coughs up its usual scripted outrage—politicians clutching pearls while doing nothing to dismantle the profiteering structures that turn human lives into actuarial tables.
His ghost gun etched with corporate buzzwords isn’t just evidence—it’s a grotesque performance piece. Meanwhile, the governor’s sanctimonious *“dark corners”* lecture reeks of deflection. When the system grinds people into dust, don’t act shocked when they bite back with theater of their own.
Very fucking well put
I'm not sure that this was written by a human, but honestly, even if it's the product of AI/ChatGPT, it's moving, nonetheless. I don't care if this diatribe was written by a robot, I can't say that I don't agree with its message 100%. If AI is gonna take this position, then I'm more than happy to fight alongside the bot army
SnapzIt would be preferable if we didn't have to murder CEOs to stop them from destroying our lives but they are sort of forcing our hands here.
GladiusBIt would be nice if they paid attention to the overwhelming pop culture references of the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s that referenced struggle.
The audacity that the most powerful and richest of the dumbs dumbs adopts psy-punk like it isn't a reference to oligarchs and shitty decisions with power and money tells me he is just shallow asshole that thinks he knows more than those that read them.
Gibson, Orwell, Stephenson, Moore, Palahniuk, Bradbury, and many others wrote fantasies that encapsulated these notions and yet it falls on deaf ears. They are indeed forcing our hands.
They see these villains and go "damn they look cool" and never think "maybe he's an asshole" with some self reflection.
SAY HIS NAME
RetrogradeLuigi Mangione, actual sexiest man alive.
The article says that some man said people "in dark corners" herald him as a hero. I guess the entirety of America is in dark corners? lol. clown man.
I guess the entirety of America is in dark corners?
- Certainly looks like it's going in that direction...
- I assume you mean "the entirety of the USA"?
The majority of Americans aren't insane Nazis, despite what doomscrolling might lead you to believe.
Also in the name of pedantry, aye, "USA".
Good to see an official page (confirmed as authenic by NBC) confirm the GiveSendGo link is authentic
I think *murder* (first degree, premeditated, cold-blooded) is worse than that
Someone has died in both cases. So why?
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There is something most people go through at some point, it's the realization that violence is sometimes necessary for the advancement of justice. There would have been no civil rights movements in the US without violence. There would have been no resistance against nazis without violence. There would have been no french revolution without violence. The very roughly "equal chances" society you enjoy today is the result of violence.
Simply put, when the system is dysfunctional and the safeguards originally put in place have been compromised/corrupted, you can either sit there and watch it dispense its injustice, or you can use violence. It's whatever works. Luigi allegedly did something very, very courageous and selfless, and he's owed our collective respect. I hope you get around to that.
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The mass spilling of blood was unnecessary, caused by impatient mobs who just could not wait for those reforms to bear fruit, and who had other unproductive agendas such as vengeance. What is certain is that 200 years later many European countries have achieved the same level of economic development and social justice as France (some of them even more so) without any need for a violent revolution.
Okay you gotta be kidding me. Can you give me the names of those countries? Because the examples that come to mind (Britain, Germany, the Netherlands) were very much violent.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years%27_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
You've got a civil war for Britain, a war of independence for the Netherlands and a foreign occupation after a bloody war for Germany.
MLK would absolutely disagree with you.
First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”
Justice delayed is justice denied. Anyone who says “Yes, you should have civil rights!…Later.” is saying No.
Many have already tried to argue that the American Healthcare system is broken, and were shot down or given vague promises that it was steadily improving.
Gandhi also preferred violence over sitting on your hands
It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. Violence is any day preferable to impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent.
This is written word, it's incomplete, it's flawed. Please do not assume the worst. I am responding in good faith to you here : I am genuinely hoping for everybody to come around to the fact that violence plays a central part in our societies, that it historically has, and that it may again -even if we don't like it
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You are extremely dishonest in interpreting the message from the one user who is excercising way too much patience with you.
You should wash your mouth when you speak about MLK when spouting for your moralism.
Also, unfriendly tip: if you're gonna critizice people for being condescending to you, you shouldn't start your argument being condescending towards everyone a priori.
Finally, you have no moral high ground, your "non violence" apparently only applies to popular opinion and not state or politicians actions. Also, citing the French revolution as an example is woefully reductive and shows that maybe you should dust off your degree and read just a bit more.
Believe what you want, but don't characterize opposition to your shitty opinion as "brigading".
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You comment a lot for someone who could not care less.
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WraithGearYou should probably shut up because nothing but shit oozes from your maw. Keeping your mouth shut so you can handle your shame in private.
NatanoxPreferably you should learn to deal with criticism, even if almost anyone is disagreeing with you. Crying on social media about a majority disagreeing only makes you look like a fool and basically animates a crowd of trolls to make fun of you. Also be aware that reactions to you so far were comparably civil, on more toxic platforms you'd have already been stomped into the ground.
If your sense of self-worth isn't strong enough to deal with massive civil / anonymous disagreement by other people without resorting to throwing shit around you should focus on improving it first before writing comments about controversial topics.
NostraDavidmass downvoting is a form of brigading, just look it up
I did. You're lying. Check this if you don't believe me: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brigading
by behaving like this, you’re not encouraging people to share their thoughts
They're discouraging takes that go against the hive mind. Simple as is. Yours just happens to also be a really shitty take.
To be clear, I don’t care about your downvotes.
You cared enough to make a comment about it.
No, all of these people are telling you that you aren't contributing to the discussion in a meaningful way.
These people are slowly but surely destroying the fabric of society and you're sitting here clutching your pearls about murder? Shut the fuck up.
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I've contributed to the conversation by pointing out you're a part of the problem, because you are. This limp dicked thinking is the reason liberals in the U.S. have been shifting further and further right these past 45+ years.
Had more been done to stop these people *sooner*, sure - we may have the luxury of not calling for people to die. We are running out of time, globally - and yes people like you need to get out of the way.
Where's your attack on the violence dealt out by so-called health insurance companies then?
Just asking because you seem to have an issue with normalizing violence.
Your agenda is very one-sided.
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So you choose to ignore corpo violence, because it's not murder in your opinion.
That way you kind of normalize that violence.
I'm against the killing of defenseless sick people by health insurance denying claims.
I'm against economical assassination on the grounds that it's despicable to collect insurance premium and embezzle insurance benefits instead of granting them.
And I'm happy that Luigi gets mail.
How is pointing out that Healthcare United had the highest claim rejection rate in America, known for its profit-based healthcare system, political assassination? "They're making me look bad by pointing out the things I say, do, and believe!"
But mass downvoting is a form of brigading
The downvote button is just a "I disagree" button. By saying you don't want people to downvote you, you're saying you don't want people to disagree with you.
now you're adding insults to the mix. Well done.
That's a bit passive aggressive innit? I don't think that was close to an insult.
you're not encouraging people to share their thoughts
this is !upliftingnews@lemmy.world, not !unpopularopinion@lemmy.world.
I DO care that you're excusing the inexcusable
I think Luigi's (theoretical) actions are the opposite of excusing the inexcusable. Murdering thousands a year for profit is inexcusable and should be stopped immediately. If that takes the death of the person orchestrating the murders, so be it. I see it as indirect self defense that's just more controversial than direct self defense.
The CEO chose to kill people and accepted the risks that come with it.
Again, I personally could not care less
I doubt that.
I rarely downvote, and even more rarely downvote and comment, but I can assure you that downvote was wholly organic. Perhaps if you feel like you're brigade all the time, you should engage in some self-reflection.
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No. I downvoted because I believe you're wrong. I said if you get piles of downvotes, maybe you should engage in some self-reflection, because maybe you're wrong. I never said you're wrong, and this is one of those areas that isn't black and white, so assigning right and wrong is only reasonable to leave as a personal choice. That said, I also think it's very wrong to put forward your opinion and then be offended when others do the same, whether it be through comments or up/downvotes.
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And I didn't say it did. But when a bunch of people say you're doing something shitty, it isn't a bad idea to take a few moments and ask, "Am I?" And coming back at them for saying it is never a good look, even if you're right.
How do you feel about this murder? https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-asthma-medicine-lawsuit-walgreens-optum-8b4130ab404e513fbd68c9e02b51976b
Will you post comments asking where the justice is for this lost life?
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I think murder (first degree, premeditated, cold-blooded) is worse than that
Someone has died in both cases. So why?
A Wild Mimic appears!systemic violence and murder are still violence and murder. diluting the guilt by splitting it between the c-suite and the shareholders doesn't make them less violent and murderous. retaliation against a murderous system isn't murder, it's fighting for freedom from and change in that system. (it's the thing where someone can be a terrorist for one side, while the person is a freedom fighter for the other side)
Except the political persecutions continyally escalate REGARDLESS of violent political actions. Tell me, how many political murder of this calibre have there been in the last 20 years in the "civilized" or rather colonized global North?
The market celebrates murder every day and you don't bat an eye.
We celebrate the market feeling fear for their daily for profit murder spree for the first time.
People like you have no problem when murder is done with a confidence scheme and a claim denial letter after people paid in advance for care when they got sick.
Shame on you.
Title "UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect thanks people for mail on new website".
People and myself find it uplifting that the accused person gets mail and not only the usual torture routine in jail that is sleeping on the floor in a turtle suit etc.
You are seeing people celebrating murder.
We're not the same.
How's that boot tasting?
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Moralism did not best fascism
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That is just an illusion, those rules never apply, it's just a playpen for us civilians but death is factory made and unlawfully mass distributed to the whole world mostly by those who are supposed to uphold these "rules". It's childish idealism to truly believe what you say, in my opinion
Where do the Civil Rights Movement or the Troubles fall within that framework? What about the Irish war of independence?
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No? The Civil Rights Movement obviously didn't involve anybody but the US, and before the Irish war of independence Ireland was part of Britain. The Troubles were also within the bounds of the post-Irish independence UK, also known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and *Northern Ireland*. North Ireland in particular is still until now British territory. So, back to my question: Where do these conflicts fall within your framework?
Wait is the article talking about murder as uplifting or are you referring to the comments on lemmy?
https://www.luigimangioneinfo.com/
Apparently the internet is a dark corner.
I guess he is only a hero suspect, according to the headline.
Unfortunately Americans chose to vote for the CEO and his friends at the presidential election. Everyone who did, have no right to complain about not receiving healthcare or welfare, or complain about rising prices or loss of rights to the Nazi government they chose themselves.
If you are part of causing the problem you are not allowed to complain about it.
Right? Not a dark corner probably like at least half of Americans
cant seem to find anything that confirms this is actually his website setup by his lawyers. The article just quotes the website and doesn't mention if they asked the lawyers its actually run by them
NBC News is *not* going to say that unless it's true. Failure to vet that claim and having it be false would be bad for NBC in every single way.
It’s full of independently verifiable information. It lists the full names of his legal team and their firm and gives details about his location and all that.
? i can make a blogpost with the names of his legal team and their firm. they don't mention they reached out to them and confirmed its legit or anything
And yet you could from the comfort of your own home for the same amount of effort you spent snarking.
Why are you getting offended? I’m just saying the journalist should’ve mentioned they reached out and confirmed it’s legit because currently there’s no way to know this website and message everyone is spreading is actually by luigi and his lawyers
Luigi is a hero.
His name is Luigi Mangione and he's an American hero.
Why dont they just write his name?
Someone else already posted it, but I couldn't see it, perhaps because I was blocked for getting super salty about Isreal / Palestine (I was probably viewed as unnecessarily aggressive while raging against Israel and genocide). So, here it is again, in case you can't see that comment.
https://www.luigimangioneinfo.com/
When the social murderers get direct murdered in retaliation 😱