Trump wants US to 'take over' Gaza and own it 'long term', with Palestinians resettled
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This honestly sounds like a PR/propaganda move. An attempt to dominate the news cycle and provide cover for on-going corruption and oligarch take-over schemes.
The US president simply saying these words puts huge numbers of people in the middle east at risk.
Even many of his own voters are shocked, because he promised America First.
Just because there is a lot of shit happening, doesn't make this any less fucked.
It was in no way my intention to downplay how fucked this is. I am just pointing out that it's worth evaluating and countering agitprop methods.
Exactly. How do "journalists" hear something like this and not immediately ask "so what else did he do just now that we should really be covering"?
Steve Bannon has previously explained this very tactic of “flooding the zone” because the media are “lazy”. And journalists still let themselves get caught on this superficial grind.
Because as long as they get clicks, they don't care, and anything with "Gaza" or "Palestine" in it will generate those clicks. Plus, running such stories is substantially less likely to result in someone lighting a fire underneath them then the other stuff they should be covering.
I don’t think so, I mean two things can be true at the same time but to me it sounds to his negotiating tactics. It’s frankly disgusting that he use this as a bargaining chip to do this but it seems like it might motivate Jordan/Egypt to lend humanitarian aid to rebuild Gaza to keep them out instead of the US covering all of it. Of course it should be Israel paying but that’s a long shot.
The negotiating tactic angle is also very realistic. But the point remains, the statement in of itself is agitprop initiative.
"Hitler wants Germany to 'take over' Poland and own it 'long term' with Jews resettled"
Just a matter of time till Trump resorts to just gassing.
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Lol, that damn genocidin Biden!
Way to go, protest voters. You did this.
Even as recently as last week, I had people telling me that Trump is better for Palestine than Harris would've been.
People are so deep into denial. I wonder if they'll ever come out and admit they were wrong for not voting.
"But... but... I didn't expect trump to be this bad!"
I'm hearing that phrase more and more often. I really hope these people enjoy the consequences of their actions, because Gaza is going to disappear and that's all on every single one of those bastards.
edit: typo
As a non-American it staggers me to think that people tried to justify not making a difficult choice by suggesting they were taking some sort of moral inaction.
Entitlement is far more dangerous when mixed with ignorance.
*That's* what staggers you? Not that both of our presidential candidates were unwilling to condemn a genocide?
And I voted for Harris and don't know a single person who didn't. But damn near everyone I know was sickened by Biden's complicity in the genocide. It was literally the main issue causing Democratic antipathy among my friends, from millennials to boomers (including multiple outspoken Jews). Not because they were on message boards consuming propaganda or because I have an especially radical social network, because it's fucking genocide and we could see it being reported in real time.
Whether the empathy party should oppose genocide by a rightwing ethnostate should not have been a confusing choice. That people find the idea of some unidentified voted refusing to vote for more of that, like it's no big deal and anyone who did was somehow not being mature, is just fucking insane. What on earth happened to you that this isn't an obvious and very relatable result. I fucking hated voting for Harris. And all this stupid vitriol should be pointed at her and Biden for not being able to do the very simple task of saying what we were all witnessing was abhorrent and our role in it was wrong. That should have been the default Democratic stance on genocide and war crimes. They're the ones who made a truly incomprehensible choice to put devotion to Israel ahead of American democracy.
That's not what I said, but thanks for going on a tangent to correct me.
Yeah, it's sickening that one of the proudest democracies in history is clearly faltering.
However, I thought they taught Americans about the responsibility of democracy. Hell knows we here you bang on about it when invading the rest of the world.
That you're somehow still focused on "Democracy" ("proud" no less) rather than "genocide" is mind-boggling. You can't pretend to be self-righteous about American invasions and then just say "whoops, a little genocide, not really important in the grand scheme of things though".
Classic American, lecturing the world on the ethics of things.
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I'm not lecturing the world. I'm lecturing you. You have shitty morality.
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This is a mind numbingly stupid comment.
But don’t worry guys Kamala was pro Israel! I literally called all this shit during the elections. Everyone on lemmy losing their fucking minds because Harris wouldn’t condemn Israel and all I kept asking was “sure but what will trump do?” And getting downvoted to oblivion. Still 99% sure they were bots but like… serious short sightedness if not.