PieFed[Hypothetical] The internet is getting shut down for 5 years. You have 100 GB of storage available, you have 24 hours to prepare. What do you download?
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Lets say you live in a world where the world government has decided people are getting too addicted to the internet and ordered the internet to be shut down for 5 years. The 100 GB of storage is all you have (excluding essential system files for your Operating System). You have 24 hours before the internet is getting shut down. What do you download?
Stock up on crypto memes.
Probably all the top huggingface weights, as they are basically the sweetened condensed internet.
For myself? A midi-file library for music (1gb is easily tens of thousands of songs), some audio porn (video takes too much space), a whole bunch of E-Books (tabletop rpg, science, literature etc.), compilers for C, a bunch of core python packages etc.
Meanwhile I'd also head over to my university to warn staff of the *impending doom* such that they can spread the word to other institutions and start rescuing as much data as possible to non-digital formats.
Stellarium
Gardening and Plant ID recognition software
Mesh Networking Tools
Obscure recipe and craft books
File Sharing Tools
Encryption Software
Clonezilla
7-zip
A Linux distro
Wikipedia is around 100gb
Lines of "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" in any format that can fill up 100GB.
I’ve been meaning to download the Beats In Space Radio mixes from their archive so I’ll just add that
Is it 100 GB in addition to what I already have saved or 100 GB of total storage? Because if it's 100 GB of total storage then I wouldn't be thinking about downloading, I'll be thinking about what I want to keep.
Total storage. If you have more, government agents might randonly burst in and confiscate excess storage. 😉
First thing would be to seriously look into data compression, and live with heavily lossy-compressed media (my music collection would be ring-fenced though). Throw out backups of physical media (take the chance on disc-rot); I guess any backups wouldn't be possible in this universe anyway so it will all be left to chance. And then see what's left.
I mean… if we’re optimizing for covert physical presence… you can hide these fuckers in tons of interesting places.
Kids these days don't understand how mind-blowing that card is. 1 TB on a little micro-SD card? For real?
Tell me about it… my 8mb compact flash card broke my mind back in the day.
Yeah 1.4mb floppies (not just AOL diskettes) we’re still everywhere when CF cameras came out.
100GB is ridiculously low nowadays. I don't think I have a single device in regular use (including my phone) with such small storage.
Just my picture archive (that is, pictures I took since I got mit first digital camera) is about 400GB.
But without such a low storage limit, this wouldn't be a fun question. The point is to really think about what files we cherish and what are we okay with losing access to (for at least 5 years).
Can my current drives be placed into storage and returned 5 years later, or do they have to be destroyed? That makes a big difference.
All confiscated by the all powerful and #benevolent world government. Who knows what happens after 5 years, maybe you'll get them, maybe not. But one way or another this internet addiction has gotta stop. Its for your own good, you know the government never lies, right? You are being liberated. Do Not Resist. 😉
I disagree there - I think it makes the question pointless as that changes the actual question to "what is the single computing device I decide to keep, after downgrading its storage". Which in many cases will not even be possible.
You're overthinking it. It's 100GB that can be saved to, nothing saying that it's 100GB on a single device and you can't pick anything else
See other comments from OP where he's stating that it'd be 100GB total, and anything else would be confiscated if found out.
Can I assume that things like movies, TV, and games will still be available in physical form? If so, the Wikipedia backup is the obvious answer
Maybe, maybe not. Remember you are dealing with a scenario where there is a world government desperately trying to stop what they perceive to be "internet addiction".
Guides how to create my own little internet with other people, 7zip and 99GB of RAM.
Lol bootleg internet?
I think I head about some place where people actually have a bootleg internet due to government censorship. Forgot where I heard about it.
There is big offline network of sharing data on usb drives in Cuba.
Viva la sneakernet
Sounds like a cyberpunk trope.
Wikipedia, kernel sources and some LLM models
I'd replace kernel sources with a full Linux distribution (unless this is already part of "essential system files")
And some Stallman memes for good measure
I still have my old Ubuntu CDs no need to worry.
Nothing, because the rest of the world is trying to do the same thing and the internet is now essentially DDoSed into oblivion 24 hours early.
Download factorio and dwarf fortress
A few years ago I was living in fear of local government turning internet into intranet north korea-style (dont ask). So - no joke - I've had factorio archived with latest versions of seablock, space exploration and nullius. Figured it'll keep me going for a decade or so.
Add Rimworld to this list
And Crusader Kings 3
Best answer. The other 90GB is irrelevant.
Email/PM everyone I'm in contact with online and ask them for their current phone numbers and addresses, and send them mine. Subscribe to 2-3 local and regional newspapers, and one good national or international one.
Offline contact info for every place I do business with online, and scrape a list of all businesses within 20 miles of home or work. Offline contact info for all the government agencies I or family or friends may need to contact for the next five years. Offline contact info for every local, state, or federal official who supposedly represents me, my family or friends.
A full listing of all my online accounts, with full transaction histories. Copies of all Terms of Service and privacy policies, copies of all warranty, repair and refund policies.
Phone numbers of my favorite restaurants and copies of their current menus. Phone numbers, addresses, visitor information, prices and (where applicable) attraction information for all museums, parks and other attractions in my area.
All my archived email or stored files that's still on a server somewhere. Copies of every single bookmark on every device I have. And copies of every story on AO3.
Math, science, chemistry, carpentry, gardening, and mechanical/engineering texts.
And repair manuals /guides for everything i own.
All the music on my playlists.
Porn.
Yeah obviously, but what about the rest of my 10s of TBs of porn?
Godot, Blender, Gimp, latest tutorial series for all three, Wikipedia (which I already have), music, fill the rest with art assets.
If I can't download games I will simply make them.
Aside from the fact that playing something youve created is an entirely different experience to discovering something unexpected that someone else has created, you would need space to store your created games still.
I mean, just because the Internet is down doesn't mean you can't go buy another hard drive in a brick and mortar store later.
The internet is going down for 5 years? Books and video instructions about farming prolly, I'll probably be unemployed if there's no Internet.
I wouldn't be too worried. If the internet stops being a thing, we'll just go back to physical media. I imagine there will be huge data storages that sell USBs and DVDs containing specific data people are looking for, so any time I'd want to watch a movie or something I would go to my network of friends and start copying.
Also known as the 90s
Dear OP’s world government, chop chop
1/10th of a Call of Duty game.
Just find 9 more people and then y'all can meet up and play the game.
Books. Small games (ROMs or not). Ubuntu (Debian doesn't come with a working desktop). Compress my music collection to AAC192. Stuff like that.
SneakerNet will still exist, so your friends can download different stuff each and transfer it over a local network, or a flash drive. Different people might connect their own local networks to facilitate ease of communication, and boom, you have an internet again. By its very nature of being decentralised, the internet is very difficult to shut down completely.
ROMs
A 100GB of ROMs
With the stipulation that it's 100GB total and not on top of what I already have, then the question is not what I would download, but rather which of my family photos/videos I'm okay with losing.
Wikipedia and a lot of games. A bunch of programming tools and libraries. My Spotify playlist. Video is the least efficient so you'd have to limit that a lot.
I don't think Spotify works without Internet for long. You'll have to login at some point.
they said their spotify playlist, so i'd assume its downloading it with something like lucida.to
So you're saying it would be my last chance to download a car?
Lol why do you assume this is a capitalistic world government, maybe its a socialist world government that gives out free cars, who knows 🤷♂️. Also you are being liberated from the internet, do not resist. 😉
(Resistance is deal with by 💥🔫)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Wouldn%27t_Steal_a_Car#In_popular_culture
100GB?? I'd be more worried about WTF will happen to the rest of my 100TB of storage
Confiscated by order of the benevolent United Nations world government.
You are being liberated from the Internet Opium, do not resist.
A collection of older and therefore smaller games. A bunch of music in mp3 (or maybe something like AAC or OPUS). A bunch of ebooks. A handful of my favorite TV shows and/or movies heavily recompressed, like maybe 720p.
Don't rule out midi or mod music file formats
An LLM pointed at a local copy of Wikipedia, and every book I can get my hands on. I already have hundreds of music CDs, and a couple dozen vinyl records, so I'm good for music.
Those would count towards the 100gb limit, right? They are digital
Books and music. The more the merrier
In this thread: dorks using it as an opportunity to brag about their large storage epeens.
MUUUUUUUUMMMMMMM the router is downnnnnn plz call the internet people
Hard drives is the new [male genitalia] measuring contest? 🤔
This thread suggests that some people certainly think so. I suspect the rest of us disagree.
There used to be a way you could download all of the Wikipedia text as a PDF. I'd pop that bad boy on a Kindle and have my own Hitchhiker's Guide.
Not a .pdf but a .zim that requires its own software to read. And not "it used to", its still possible now, and new versionnare constantly being added.
Google "Kiwix". You have to download the reader software, then the .zim file. It's also cross-platform, available on many platforms, you can even have it on your phone.
Its actually used by various non-profit organizations to spread knowledge in developing/undeveloped countries. The latest version of the entire English wikipedia is like 100GB with photos and audio files, its 50GB with text only.
still is a way to dl the whole db.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
Wikipedia
If you were smart about it and had time to prepare, you could find a way to restrict the size of the Wikipedia download by eliminating things that are likely to also be in print books and therefore much less important to preserve. It might have to involve some sort of machine learning element.
I think the full dump of wikipedia complete with multimedia is like 5 GB. the text-only version is something like 100MB.
22 gb without media
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
is that for all languages and with history?
I checked yesterday, English Wikipedia is 86 GB
huh. wonder where i got that from then.
English only with media is a bit over 100GB, at least the kiwix package is
i wonder where i got the low number from then :/ can't find it now
How to self-host/become your own ISP
You should make this a writing prompt
Is there even a "writing prompts" community on Lemmy?
Oh I'm glad you asked! I'm so glad you asked! I'm so very glad you asked!
Not very much with my slow connection.
RIP
But on the bright side, you get to touch more grass 😅
Start running wires and make a intranet with my neighbors. WiFi would be easier, but would the internet police be looking for signals?
Would Netflix go back to mailing physical disks? Would I have to go buy albums? Weird. You could buy of borrow the physical media and add it to your intranet.
I'd probably download a couple TV series and some music. I'd also get software to make sure I can copy and store everything.
Wait, the kids are alright potentially
All my movies and TV and wikipedia.
I watched a 87gb rip of Godzilla Minus One last night... I might need to bring down my bitrate standards if I want to fit all my movies
Ultra high-fidelity version of « Sandstorm » and the same copy of the Vern Troyer porn movie with virus that nuked my gf’s computer.
5 years? Hm, time to get some stuff from the 90s, when the internet was a timed luxury, so plenty of emulators and roms, they won't take much space. Videos are out, some porn will have to be static pics, some as gifs.
Also, gotta have Factorio, Palworld, dwarf fortress
I have a library card and they have plenty bluerays and audiobooks there. I think I'd download all Debian packages and maybe some pornography? Because that seems to be missing in the city library for some reason.
Petition to have Debian packages back in city libraries
Petition to have pornography back in city libraries
As much of pornhub that will fit.
This guy will be rich in the post apocalypse
Contact info for all my bills. Everything else is ephemeral so may as well wean off it now.
Sounds like a good chance to catch up with my backlog of games.
I would check so I can play everything I want offline then just get as much as I can.
Well obviously I'd download 100 GBs of more RAM.
But uh, for serious?
DL everything I'd need to build Debian from bare metal... probably some select material from the IA, basic survival stuff, info on how to set up a solar power system... and all the I2P software and source code i can find.
If the Net goes down, but the physical hardware still exists, cables, radios, wifi cards... build your own Net.
Sorry, but i feel like i have been preparing for this for the last 15 years now. I won't answer the question because I already have 40tb worth of content on my personal NAS. From movies, TV shows, music, and video games, I think I will be good for some time living off of just that. I also have all my docs, and personal pics as well.
Since I live in an area where power goes out a lot and internet can go down once or twice a year (not long but maybe up to 6 hours, worst case) it's already been a great solution that I was able to try out during those events.
Oh, I'll get Call of Du... Ah shit it's download didn't finish
The bigger joke is that (IIRC) all of the latest CoD games require a consistent internet connection to verify that you actually purchased the rights to the video game. Even if you're playing offline.
Only 100GB? Shit I'm gonna have to decide what porn not to keep...
Sort by date last viewed, delete everything older than a month ago. You're welcome.
Or to keep things fresh, only keep the oldest 100gb.
But what about those days were you're really in the mood for a particular video from 3 years back?
Since it hasn't been mentioned yet:
Project Gutenberg.
It's pretty much all copyright-less (?) books. About 40GB.
I'd probably also torrent a shitton of less-than-legal books. Mostly because they're copyrighted, not because the books themselves are illegal. I would survive the rest of my life on books. Maybe a few GB of music - I'd need some background noise if I were to study.
Some free OS' like Debian and FreeBSD, and their manual. Maybe some magazine about both?
Download a zillion movies and whole tv series (in highly compressed versions), a zillion music albums and playlists, the 25 GB downloadable version of Wikipedia, a ton of emulators and game roms, and a bunch of apps covering everything i might wanna do like music creation software.
qwen2.5, mistral large, llama3.1/3.2, ...
Which one would you pick?
Llama 90B was the last one I tested, I have no idea how the newer ones fare
I have a 100% remote job a few hundred km away. Even if you made the exception for remote work, my job would basically be pointless because our company operates entirely in the online world.
I also wouldn't be able to Skype or even email my aging family back in the US.
Also, in very rural Japan, online shopping is a huge saver of time and money. I'd also have to watch OTA Japanese tv which mostly sucks.
I was thinking just various learning materials, but I think you can just shoot me instead sometime before the bank repo's my house
I think in this scenario you just have to pretend we are ok economically, because of the Internet went down entirely, the world economy would completely collapse in a few hours to days.
*Redbox throws hands up in frustration
Lots of tools and games that are open ended and not contrived as well as the obligatory Wikipedia download.
A couple ROMs, some banger songs and one hyrule warriors legends.
(Had about 700 or so hours I'm the original over a couple of years l).
The internet goomg down is not gonna be as bad as one thinks, at least not for the individual.
Unless it's a fascist government, I don't care about ebooks, mp3, movies or TV show. I'll use books, vinyls and DVD.
DVDs are digital storage though, so wouldn't they count for the 100 GB limit? I mean otherwise I could just burn a ton of media to bluray discs and be golden
I wasn't thinking of writable DVDs, but factory pressed ones. They are digital, but their use is comparable to vinyl or books.
Wikipedia, music, cool videos.
A bunch of e-books and all the SNES roms I can grab.
I still have to work right?
This reminds me, there were a lot of sd shows that were around 60megs a pop.
That’s a lot of shows. Just sayin
Well you are only getting one chance of downloading stuff for the next 5 years, so you might wanna call out from work. Or you know, just set it to download automatically and go to work, and hope your computer doesn't crash or windows try to update itself.
Offline wikipedia, original Finnish “Hobitit” as the movie cut, both seasons of the original Polish “Wiedzmin”, latest versions of the usual rust crates, especially everything bevy related, so that I have plenty to do for years even without internet. Probably some sort of copy of stack overflow too, or sections of it, if possible. Offline version for docs.rs, also offline documentation for lua, react, dotnet etc, that I could foresee maybe needing during those 5 years. Reaper DAW with some of my most trusted plugins. No heavyweight synths or vsti though, have to trust people getting more into actual instruments without internet and me being able to record them. Latest Krita, Blender and Obsidian. The most essential plugins, brushes, scripts etc for those too. Starting to close in on the 100gb I guess, so the rest Id dedicate on extremely compressed (but not *horrible*) versions of my most listened playlists of music; a few of my favorite movies and/or series; and as big of an archive of ebooks (as in fiction) I could muster in a day. If I have space left, my audiobook library, or at least a segment of it, too. I could live without porn, I suppose, as long as the other areas of entertainment and escapism are covered.
Personal medias, Wikipedia, LLM models, good for searching without net innacurate but better than nothing. Instruction how to setup alternative to internet, good chance there is going to be an underground version. Sms contact list of all your friends/families, did not say sms no longer available. Games, eBooks like electrical, health, laws and programming.
I'd download as much 480p TV, movies, etc as possible as quickly as possible.
*looks at my nas, already stuffed with several TB of content, chuckling*
Some panic, while others were ready since the dawn of time. I'll add that extra 100 gigs to my drive collection though...
(it's lots of games, media, and yiff. And yeah, it is enough to hold me over for 5 years. No, you can't see it. :p)
You didn't read the post. You're going to be spending all of your time deleting your content because you only have 100 GB's total.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs
I already have 30GB of math textbooks, I guess I'll just download another 70GB of textbooks on various subjects and sell them to students. Y'all gonna return after 5 years to a new Elsevier.
Lots of anime. Some cherished games. I feel like i don't need a while lot of porn. Maybe those 5-6 vids that I currently frequent. That will probably get me through. Other than that; House; maybe all of Stargate but prob would never get to it; HBO watchmen series is totally rewatchable and would probably grab the movie too; bunch of misc horror films; all of law and order. Probably missed some stuff but the biggest loss would be all the new stuff that won't be released.
I did all of Stargate some 15 years ago. I feel a lot of nostalgia for it. If you never went through it all - definitively get that on your 100GB.
It's probably been 15 years since I watched them all. I just don't imagine I'd get that bored in just 5 years.
Hah, I've been collecting all my needs offline for a while now. Because companies keep turning to subscriptions and other ##. I'm pretty sure my archive of apps is under 100GB
Is file compression allowed?
E.g: 100 GB compressed, or uncompressed?
you have 100GB available. if you pack it full, you cannot unpack
What about dynamic in (system) memory decompression though?
Allowed. It would be more complicated to define what “compressed not allowed” means. A png file uses compression. Most videogames include compressed assets. Uncompressed video is basically unheard of.
I would buy a ton of storage devices as secretly as possible and hide them, hoping the government doesn't notice. Then I'd use the drives to make a sneakernet type situation.
Well, I'd be down like 60TB, so getting to keep 100GB of that isn't much different than losing it all, might as well not bother with it and just wait out the 5 years and start over.
It's a lot of books
I do paper books.
The 4K Blu-ray remux of Andor Season 1 is 230 GB. This new government might be shutting down the internet, but I doubt that they're monsters, and so surely wouldn't expect me to re-watch it in any lower quality. Fortunately, I've worked out that the Aldanhi arc and the last 2 episodes are 102 GB, so it should be manageable if some recaps are cut.
I have already more than 100GB, why would I rip out my drives when the internet is going down?
Oh you don't have to rip them out. The benevolent world government will do that for you. Do not resist.
I have almost a TB of of private photos, they are not related to the internet.
I take about a hundred GB of photos every year.
100GB of free space is an insult.
The fascist government doesn't care that you are inconvienenced by the 100gb limit
100 GB is some rookie numbers. I've had 8tb for years, I'm only half full and the drives are starting to age out. I've already replaced one with a 4tb drive, once the rest are replaced, it'll be 16tb total.
When you think you are bragging, or something, but you are actually just doing hypotheticals wrong...
Assume that the government in this scenario, which has the power to shut down Internet, can also steal your storage capacity.
What government ?
The hypothetical in the OP.
"world government" fair enough I didn't catch that
Wasn't there a Uni project a few years back trying to summarize key civilization building concepts - like basic agriculture, tool making, shelter making, that sort of thing. Because whatever society described by OP is going to have serious problems.
Well I mean, one could argue our world is already too addicted to the internet. The only difference is we don't have an authoritarian world government that wants to do something about it.
My ISP recently gave us notice of an extended period of planned downtime so I already gave this some thought.
yt-dlp is a godsend, especially if you reduce the quality. I just set it going on an old playlist for some YouTubers I enjoy. You can find a lot of old comedy on YouTube too which tends to be in playlists.
Other than that, none of classic Doctor Who is HD so doesn't take up too much space. BBC iPlayer works with yt-dlp too with the right settings.
Save just one Blu-ray backup. 😭 My NAS storage will suddenly be unavailable too or no?