Worst that there are also unknown Virus and Bacteria found in the Permafrost, which are also defrosted with the Climate change. A lot are also still life..
Not less evolved. Just evolved differently for alternative environmental circumstances.
There is no hierarchy of evolutionary traits. Just an amalgamation of traits that are or are not useful in the current environment. What genetic makeup is effective in one place and time is useless in another, and what was once useless may now be beneficial.
We have no clue how threatening they could potentially be.
Ok my last input was a bit lazy hence all the armchair biologists tuning in.
Less and more evolved is definitely a thing when alluding to the complexity of the system and since evolution is incremental time helps.
However you are right that adaptability to the environment is the most important thing when defining the success of your "genetic constitution".
I guess my point is that we are more likely to have, in our DNA, evolved adaptation to them than they are to have adaptation to circumvent our immunity.
That being said, yes there are inherent risks to getting those out there, I'm just saying our propensity for enjoying fictional doom scenarios might make us overstate the probability of those occurences.
Ok, but evolution doesn't follow a straight path. The ancestors of whales looked like wolves, while whales look, act, and function much more like fish, which those wolf-like pre-whales evolved from way earlier up the line. This is a common misconception about evolution, so don't feel bad for getting caught in it.
I'm not disagreeing with you here, but wouldn't it be fair to say there is a gradient, but it is dynamic and defined by the current environment and what it takes to survive it?
Maybe the goal posta keep moving but we are talking about a very large time scale, so long that, for at least a couple of million years, what could be defined as more or less evolved might seem or be descibed as pretty solid.
Although i suppose its not fair to say more or less evolved and might be more accurate to say more or less well adapted.
They are investigating it, some million years in the oldest beeings in Earth don't make evolutive difference to the current ones. The only question is, if they can infect humans or animals or not.
The climate change make that all tipe of indesirable things are defrosted, adding more dangerous diseases to the existing ones.
Viruses and bacteria don't evolve to kill you. They propogate in your system to spread themselves. It's actually in their best interest to keep you alive, so the more evolved ones would be less deadly because they've had more time to dial it in. Not that evolution is something they choose, it's from mutations that work more or less better.
Are we just looking for imaginative ways to destroy ourselves at this point? We have enough options already! But we have to keep looking for more creative previously unknown ways to kill ourselves.
Xeno-archaeologist 1,000 years from now: ..... *yeah .... it's another one .... fourth one in this sector .... just blew themselves up and destroyed everything for some dumb reason ... probably economics like in that last system 35 light years away .... too bad ... if we had arrived earlier, we could have helped them out ... oh well*
Further research shows that they blew everything up trying to deal with the ancient, insatiable, worms they released on themselves out of curiosity. Upon reflection, it is probably better that we didn't arrive earlier.
Alien #1: ... *HEY KORG! ... look at this! ... (picks up human skull and starts comically operating the jawbone) ... HEY LOOK AT ME! Imma intelligent species and my economy is more important because I have to pay for these worms ... so imma gonna blow up the world for some reason*
KORG: ... *Stop messing around Kang ... this place gives me the creeps, let's get out of here.*
I love that "Uh, guys?" is a real in-character reaction and moment in many episodes of SG1. This story easily could have been a plot in the show.
While Star Trek had these wonderful "this is why we explore the galaxy" moments, SG1 wasn't afraid to place characters face-to-face with something or someone that would just erase existence or end humanity if the next moment wasn't handled the right way.
One of the issues with cryonics in large animals is sufficiently saturating all of the tissues with cryoprotectants to prevent frostbite. Some have speculated that it might be possible to engineer an organism to produce it's own cryoprotectant proteins inside all of its cells, as some arctic fish and insects do.
That wouldn't help with getting even heat into all of the tissues for thawing though.
They are yet to defrost more members of United RussiaI've seen this one!
Oh, these are the new billionaire inbreds?
Just kidding, fuck yeah, I'll always upvote "the thing".
Trump‘s latest Cabinet picks
Is that a man in there... or something?
Childs, get the flamethrower!
you beat me to it with about 3h. these are mandatory flashbacks for anyone who has watched the movie and saw this meme
Can't snack on the tomb cheese.
Can't slurp the sarcophagus juice.
Can't eat ancient worms.
What is there to live for.
At least we will have mummy jerky... For now.
There are those packing peanuts made from corn starch.
If I remember correctly, the industry term for packing peanuts is "void filler" so, fill that void!
Just met the girl
In pre-slavic society, you don't eat worm. Worm eats you, then commands you to reproduce so worm has more you to eat.
I know about the sarcophagus juice, but what the heck is the tomb cheese? lol
Be blessed by the 2.6k years old tomb cheese.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ancient-egyptian-tomb-cheese
Would anyone still love me if I was a 41,700 y/o worm? 🥺
Leto?
Are you asking for a friend, old worm?
I would ancient worm, I would
Despite the apparent huge age gap, they can still date under the “half your age plus 7” rule.
*half your age plus 700
always believe in your soul
Indeed.
Worst that there are also unknown Virus and Bacteria found in the Permafrost, which are also defrosted with the Climate change. A lot are also still life..
Let's just hope that they have no compatible hosts on Earth
More fun still - *prions.*
Your autoclave won't help you now, kids.
Although, most likely less-evolved hence less-threathening than the current virus and bacterias.
Not less evolved. Just evolved differently for alternative environmental circumstances.
There is no hierarchy of evolutionary traits. Just an amalgamation of traits that are or are not useful in the current environment. What genetic makeup is effective in one place and time is useless in another, and what was once useless may now be beneficial.
We have no clue how threatening they could potentially be.
Yes and no.
Ok my last input was a bit lazy hence all the armchair biologists tuning in.
Less and more evolved is definitely a thing when alluding to the complexity of the system and since evolution is incremental time helps.
However you are right that adaptability to the environment is the most important thing when defining the success of your "genetic constitution".
I guess my point is that we are more likely to have, in our DNA, evolved adaptation to them than they are to have adaptation to circumvent our immunity.
That being said, yes there are inherent risks to getting those out there, I'm just saying our propensity for enjoying fictional doom scenarios might make us overstate the probability of those occurences.
Less evolved as in the product of less evolution. There is such a thing as more and less because more happens over time.
Ok, but evolution doesn't follow a straight path. The ancestors of whales looked like wolves, while whales look, act, and function much more like fish, which those wolf-like pre-whales evolved from way earlier up the line. This is a common misconception about evolution, so don't feel bad for getting caught in it.
Nothing about the phrase “more evolved” implies a “straight path” of evolution
To have "more or less" of something implies the effectiveness of the product is directly caused by the metric being measured.
The amount of time a genotype took to evolve has no bearing on the effectiveness.
There is no such thing as "more/less evolved". There is no gradient. Something either is evolved to adapt to its environment or it isn't.
I'm not disagreeing with you here, but wouldn't it be fair to say there is a gradient, but it is dynamic and defined by the current environment and what it takes to survive it?
Maybe the goal posta keep moving but we are talking about a very large time scale, so long that, for at least a couple of million years, what could be defined as more or less evolved might seem or be descibed as pretty solid.
Although i suppose its not fair to say more or less evolved and might be more accurate to say more or less well adapted.
Is the saber toothed tiger less threatening than the common house cat ?
Yes, saber toothed tiger can't manipulate humans.
It'd have a fair go at manipulating your arm off your torso given the chance.
If it can't survive in today's environment then yes.
That's not how evolution works.
They are investigating it, some million years in the oldest beeings in Earth don't make evolutive difference to the current ones. The only question is, if they can infect humans or animals or not.
The climate change make that all tipe of indesirable things are defrosted, adding more dangerous diseases to the existing ones.
Viruses and bacteria don't evolve to kill you. They propogate in your system to spread themselves. It's actually in their best interest to keep you alive, so the more evolved ones would be less deadly because they've had more time to dial it in. Not that evolution is something they choose, it's from mutations that work more or less better.
Normally I recommend we start small, just a little fire.
Fuck it in this case. Exterminatus.
Gonna need to break out the board from Cabin in the Woods
Are we just looking for imaginative ways to destroy ourselves at this point? We have enough options already! But we have to keep looking for more creative previously unknown ways to kill ourselves.
Maybe it's related to thawing of permafrost and they want to research what to do if all the frozen bugs come back to life
We've got to leave something interesting for the alien xeno-archaeologists of the future to uncover.
Exactly, do you want them to know we polluted ourselves to death? That's just shameful
Now, if we accidentally unleashed an ancient parasite? That's just unfortunate
Xeno-archaeologist 1,000 years from now: ..... *yeah .... it's another one .... fourth one in this sector .... just blew themselves up and destroyed everything for some dumb reason ... probably economics like in that last system 35 light years away .... too bad ... if we had arrived earlier, we could have helped them out ... oh well*
Further research shows that they blew everything up trying to deal with the ancient, insatiable, worms they released on themselves out of curiosity. Upon reflection, it is probably better that we didn't arrive earlier.
Alien #1: ... *HEY KORG! ... look at this! ... (picks up human skull and starts comically operating the jawbone) ... HEY LOOK AT ME! Imma intelligent species and my economy is more important because I have to pay for these worms ... so imma gonna blow up the world for some reason*
KORG: ... *Stop messing around Kang ... this place gives me the creeps, let's get out of here.*
Oh they are going to love microplastics
Are these the same worms that got into RFK Jr's brain after his meeting with his russian handler?
Yes, but they starved for lack of brains :(
It might not have been the worm actually. Missing a chunk of brain runs in his family on his uncle's side.
Holy Fuck!
Sure, but that generally involves lead poisoning.
No. He killed those ones with horse dewormer trying to prevent COVID
Who is that fine looking gentleman with the godawful haircut?
Character is Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1
Very underrated show.
Indeed.
Don't worry, he's died like 5 times
Then ascended
after all the shit he's been through
Canadian actor Michael Shanks.
Did the scientists at least think the worms were getting better on the drums?
Perchance they are together with a Jewish bass player.
I love that "Uh, guys?" is a real in-character reaction and moment in many episodes of SG1. This story easily could have been a plot in the show.
While Star Trek had these wonderful "this is why we explore the galaxy" moments, SG1 wasn't afraid to place characters face-to-face with something or someone that would just erase existence or end humanity if the next moment wasn't handled the right way.
Worm 1
[Healthy]
Age 2 quadrums (32000) of Russia
Consuming nutrient paste
Worm 2
[Healthy]
Age 1 (41700) of Russia
Consuming nutrient paste
worm 2 has gone into a murderous rage, and will kill anyone he sees
Tek ma te
Their opponent:
The very hungry helminths.
Must be famished after all that time
I wonder how this is going to advance the status of cryogenic freezing.
It won't. That's simply not possible for an organism as large and complex as a human being. You can watch this for a more detailed explanation.
Not yet atleast, until human genetic engineering is legalized
How would that solve the issue presented in the paper the video mentions?
One of the issues with cryonics in large animals is sufficiently saturating all of the tissues with cryoprotectants to prevent frostbite. Some have speculated that it might be possible to engineer an organism to produce it's own cryoprotectant proteins inside all of its cells, as some arctic fish and insects do.
That wouldn't help with getting even heat into all of the tissues for thawing though.
The Russians were *pissed* when all of their soldiers died and only SG-1 made it out alive.
they should eat one, or place it in their ear canal :)
Where are the animorphs when you need them most
Yes, danieljackson?
Several<>two
Several were defrosted, two woke up
= The others didn't.
RIP worms
The dictionary definition says more than two, but it also says it mean some; which has a definition of an unspecified amount.
Unspecified amount which is greater than two.
One funny thing about the dictionary is that complex words are explained in simple language and simple words are explained in complex language.