PieFedDanish Presidency backs away from 'chat control' | Euractiv
Blaze (he/him)www.euractiv.com/news/danish-presidency-backs-a…
2 Comments
Comments from other communities
Good. And now stay vigilant as this will come up again in a year when people have forgotten.
Exactly… the next 3 presidents (Cyprus, Ireland, Lithuania) all support the legislation, and the three afterward (Greece, Italy, Latvia) are undecided, but their indecision doesn’t seem to come from a moral standpoint. This puts us in 2029 before the leadership (Luxembourg then Netherlands) actually rejects broad privacy invasion on principle.
This assessment assumes no sentiment changes on the national levels, which is of course a wrong assumption. It’s important to keep respect for private life on the minds of politicians to prevent delay another attempt.
RedSnt 🧩♂️👓🖥️“Skummel” means creepy in Danish.Skummelgaard will be back, and in greater numbers.
Han er bange for at hans egne meldinger bliver gjort offentligt.
Translation: he’s scared that his own messages will become public.
What does it even mean that they propose a voluntary system? Who would want to voluntarily let themselves be monitored? How would that be beneficial to the supposed goal of detecting CSAM?
It’s like in school - the kid who doesn’t raise his hand is the one that has to answer the question.
I believe it means that it is voluntary for the service providers to implement such measures, not that users can opt-in. This means that any E2EE message service providers wouldn’t be required to implement client side scanning, but that any provider not offering E2EE could still scan server side and report.
Don’t worry, chat control will happen.
They retry it every few years and they only need to succeed once
And how do you know, do you see the future? They will abandon as well if we keep pushing. Nothing is guaranteed of course - even that your country will not become a dictatorship. But you can push, and keep fighting for your rights while you have them.
Temporarily
Eh, the Danish presidency will end in the end of December. Whether any future presidency will take it up again is a different question of course.
The Danes
As a Dane myself, assuming the entire country is pro-surveillance annoys me to no end. Just a few weeks ago there was enough signatures to send in a proposal to folketinget to stop this insanity.
It ends with:
Når Rusland indfører masseovervågning, ryster vi på hovedet og kalder det diktatur. Når EU vil gøre det samme, er det “for børnenes skyld” og forventer, at alle bare nikker.
->
When Russia introduces mass surveillance, we shake our heads and call it dictatorship. When the EU wants to do the same, it is ‘for the sake of the children’ and expects everyone to just nod in agreement.
I’m an expat living in Denmark and it confused me how this was not only supported but led by the Danish presidency! From a close outsider perspective, it didn’t feel like it matched what I know of Danes, but came from politicians.
My Danish is not very good yet so I’m not very plugged into grassroots feelings. It felt weird that this legislation would be led by a country with an overall high digital literacy and respect for private life. I assumed the rather high trust in public institutions was a significant factor, but it’s not like the people I know are blindly trusting.
I am danish, and I have yet to meet anyone here who supports it. I’m sure there are some out there, but they seem to be pretty rare.
Its a way to get something through so that the next “addon” will feel less scary. Do not fall for it.
Any mechanism for spying on citizens private communication will be missused by whoever is in power. The data will be hoarded and leaked. The mechanism will be compromised and exploited by criminals and foreign powers.
To preserve a free society, we need a right to private communication.
Don’t forget the name: Peter Hummelgaard. It is the asshole that was pushing it against people’s will, and now he is backing off because his ass heated. FIRE HIM, he should not be dscisive about anything because he is dangerous, if he goes against democratic country will he should not deserve for any high status, don’t forget the name.
I have a better idea. Use the freetown Christiania to overthrow the government, behead him, put the government back into power willingly. Just for shits n gigs.
Right, until next time they propose it again.
These guys should uhh take a long skiing trip to Norway, right guys?