PieFedWhite House Plans Broad Crackdown on Liberal Groups
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kirk's death is doing nothing to dent MAGA oppression or do anything good but the opposite, just like i said... "Mr. Trump, who has downplayed violence from right-wing or other supporters, said that he would like to designate a range of groups, including the loosely affiliated group of far-left anti-fascism activists, known as “antifa,” as domestic terrorists and bring racketeering cases against people funding protests."
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They did not give a fuck 3 months ago
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/14/us/melissa-hortman-minnesota-assassination
It says a lot that I hadn't even heard of her murder.
I mean, I'm Canadian, so I really struggle to keep track of every time one of you lot shoots another, but still, point stands.
I don't think I heard about it until this event either, and I'm American. I may have heard a mention of it, but there wasn't significant conversation.
jballsGuess they were never going to let a good crisis go to waste. Doesn't matter if the shooter was far right or not, they were always gonna blame the left.
The shooter didn't hate transgender people, according to the right, that makes him a far left radical
CharlesDarwinHave grocery prices come down yet? Where's that $2/gal gas I keep hearing about?
They're hoping to use the same play book that was used against the KKK. Sue their funding out of existence.
The problem being the groups they're going to target have far broader protections than the klan did back in the day. And also they know the plan, and several methods to counter it.
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This is very very different from anything the US has had since McCarthy
When they went after the left again. Odd. And before that, it was communists just after WWII. I'm beginning to think this country doesn't like the left.
TropicalDingdongThis is what victimization fantasy looks like.
Also, please notice the incredibly steep increase in this kind of misuse of language in the previous ~200 hours.
Should be noted that both parties going after the other side isn't true. That just seems to be a Republican thing these last few decades. Even more so in the last few months. The people living in luxury are the most responsible, so that statement is true
I think this disingenuine argument is founded on the fact that Democrats will lock up Republicans who have broken the law and they want to call that Democrats going after republicans. Where Republicans will lock up anybody who disagrees with whatever illegal bullshit they're trying to accomplish
IninewCrowThe difference is that when democrats go after the right ... it's because far right extremists literally tried to lead a coup to take over government
When republicans go after the left ... it's usually because of something the right did to themselves
No, when Republicans are in power, they go after the other side. Don't try that 'both sides' weasel angle
dohpaz42While true to a small degree, it is very obvious how lopsided one side is in comparison to the other. But I wholeheartedly agree that us citizens are the ones left in the lurch and usually fighting with each other (class warfare).
I don't know if that is true to any degree. The Democrats were chosen by the donors to be weak. They will not enforce the law against the rich and connected, they would not enforce the law against Republicans that tried to end the Republic in all but name and set themselves up as a one-party State rigging elections promising to persecute the other side they fall falsely claimed were doing that.
Which is the president's raison de etre, Biden and the Democrats abdicated their duty to defend the republic after the most egregious in your face attempt to kill it.
If that would not spur them to action nothing will. The party is broken. Not a single Challenger for president with four months to go with a candidate that never broke 30% approval rating and was roundly hated by all sides, that offered no substantive reform against a candidate running as reform in a time of anger and upheaval.
Pelosi handpicked her replacement as house Speaker without challenge, Schumer has not faced a single fucking challenge.
What the fuck is wrong with this party?
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They allowed an attempt to end the Republican all but name to go unpunished so I would tell you to get on it not off it. No reasonable person would do anything but scoff at what you say here which I do good sir. I scoff at you.
Those damn voters never know what's good for them so that's why we will give the GOP so much rope to hang themselves that it reaches the floor!
Honestly, it’s a very nuanced topic that has no clear delineation of right and wrong. There are some things the Dems will champion, while other things they will abdicate. It’s confusing as fuck to be honest; not to mention mentally exhausting. But at the end of the day, they’re still far better than their conservative counterparts (sometimes barely).
You think the Democrats needed help demotivating their voter? They did that all by themselves. They were never going to be able to coast forever on being "not as bad as that guy".
Establishment Democrats did everything in their power to keep from being a party capable of inspiring anyone. Even so, the entire grass-roots infrastructure of the Democratic party would crumble without progressive volunteers. We've stood by this party through insult after insult and failure after failure.
Even now, with the country in the grasp of full blown fascism, we can't even get establishment Democrats to reliably back their own fucking nominee for the mayor of NYC. And you think it's progressive criticism that's demotivating voters? You are fucking insane.
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So what, are we supposed to ignore reality and hope voters don't notice? You think that's a reliable strategy to avoid fascism? That's not how society works. Brushing Democratic party flaws under the rug doesn't keep voters from knowing the problems aren't getting solved. Fascism thrives in the vacuum of Democratic ineffectiveness.
And I wonder if you level the same criticisms when the establishment punches left (which they do far more than punching right). Surrendering to Republican framing on everything from Israel to defunding police to trans issues is what loses elections.
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I haven't googled it in awhile but IIRC antifa just means anti fascist. It's not like an organization.
I remember when antifascist was a good thing to be. Like all the time from the 1930s to the 2010s.
Still is. Always will be. Especially when the fascists have power.
It is still a good thing to be. Just because the Fascists don't like it, doesn't mean we have to indulge them.
Of course. It's just crazy that this "antifascism is bad" line gets any traction at all, and that the media don't call it out.
During the Red Scare, people were persecuted for being "premature anti-fascists." See, at first, the only pushback was coming from the socialists and commies.
If you're anti fashism, you're anti (future) America and need to be dealt with because you're a terrorist. /s
It's an idea, and you can't kill an idea. Especially a fucking obvious one like that you should resist fascism however you can
Here is our website.
https://www.antifa.org/
I remember looking for an antifa organization website in the past. This is great!
Then it will be that much harder to deny that are in that group, you disgusting
brownblackgaytransprogressiveeducatedcompassionate personDemocratterrorist!As opposed to the live and let live attitude they've been surfing so far
well now they've said it, formally designating speech as terrorism
Racketeering for “funding protests” sounds a lot like making it illegal to donate to groups who don’t support him.
Just one more step towards his promise of us never needing to vote again.
I would be much more concerned about the couch fucker in eye liner.
I have zero concern for that guy. I just don't think he has the leverage or the charisma to keep the party in check like Trump does.
So Thiel put him in place and much of the policy that has consumed Trump's second term is actually helping to cement Thiel's plan for dominance. The giant data collection on behalf of DOGE/Musk, focus on AI, and deregulating the FDA bc "RFK says so" was actually Thiel's plan going back to when he became involved in Trump's first term.
Given that the House democrat who began the process of calling for Epstein files is also a Peter Thiel sycophant, I have a feeling that Vance replacing Trump before the 4 year mark, was always the plan.
(I do think the Democrats in the Senate like Wyden and Warren, specifically calling Thiel, Bessent and big banks out last Wednesday, was probably not part of their plan, and it seems to have kind of spooked them a bit. Like they seem to be panicking and rushing through the power grab more quickly than they thought they would need to.)
Once you have full impenetrable authoritarian control in place, it doesn't really matter who the face is that's sitting in the seat of president. If they're restricting public protest or "delaying" elections due to safety concerns, charisma doesn't really matter.
As far as cancelling, delaying, or restricting elections, my guess is most likely they will attempt to propose something like moving voting online due to heightened safety concerns. They probably will also claim it somehow actually protects against voter fraud, and implement ID verification in order to submit a vote online. Which not only means your vote likely doesn't count for jack shit, it possibly makes you a target for even attempting to vote against them.
This is also why I find the behavior of the entire GOP very concerning. Sometimes individuals seem like they might be getting cold feet, but in general there seems to be a pretty clear understanding that going scorched earth on your voter base, isn't something you really need to worry about. When the time for your re-election comes your loyalty will be rewarded.
I just don't believe that without a Trump like figure, they'll maintain that leverage. I know all about Theil and Vance and that they're trying to setup exactly what you're describing. I just don't think they can do it. We should absolutely be fighting against it and preparing for it to happen though.
I hope they can't but the rich and powerful across the globe seem to accomplish some pretty miraculous things you would think had no chance of happening. Especially when they're allowed to hide what they're doing in the shadows.
Expected reaction to MAGA on MAGA crime.
Just means theres no downside for when a non conservative does these type of attacks since they're gonna just punish the left anyway.
And a bonus for when conservative types do these attacks, since they're gonna just punish the left anyway
Maga is a domestic terrorist group
And America's biggest national security threat.
The actual irony
It's kinda weird they just immediately took over his entire platform to use . It's almost like this all kind of unexpectedly worked out to their advantage...
Unrelated, but do you think this crackdown will be aimed at censoring all forms of activism?
Bc I'm very interested in creating new organizations similar to Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD). Like I have an idea for one called Mothers Against Pedophelia (MAP). You don't have to be a mother to join, and we're definitely not a political organization. Just mothers (and others) who organize to strongly seek an end to pedophilia and prevent any pedophiles in positions of authority from being able to harm more children, whoever those pedophiles might be.
Like will this administration also try to keep MAP from protecting our children? I sure hope not. I just can't imagine the kind of world where anyone could ever (publicly) admit to preventing mothers from protecting children from pedophiles? Won't somebody think about the children!?!
I wonder what other kinds of non political organizations might be popping up in the near future?
Protecting pedophiles os one of this administration's highest priority objectives so yes, as soon as a pedophile of means finds themselves in some way affected.
I'm not sure if I'm missing a joke here, but definitely do not use MAP as your acronym. Pedophiles already took that one.
? Never heard of it. I mean there's also Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), but I think we can make it pretty clear what our organization stands for.
But, I would also hope we would inspire several offshoots. We could have Christians Against Pedophelia (CAP) and demand our religious freedom be respected by holding interfaith prayer breakfasts in schools to raise awareness.
I think there are probably plenty of non political groups that don't support pedophelia, and it terrifies me to know that our government could potentially interfere with our freedom of expression by trying to force us into silence at a time when powerful pedophiles with leadership positions in government, banks, and big corporations are being protected.
If I thought this was just a joke I would have taken a page from DOGE and suggested something like Families Against Pedophelia (FAP). I'm not joking though, I find it pretty upsetting that our own leaders might expect us to just be silent when it comes to protecting those who need the most protection. Especially while the powerful people who are harming them appear to be receiving some kind of government protection. We now have confirmation about who was involved, and we just need enough of the people that we elected and trusted with their positions of power to confirm they don't want to protect pedophiles by releasing the financial information that shows exactly what transpired between these rich and powerful people.
I understand Vance doesn't want any political violence, and neither do I. Thats why this isn't a political organization. In fact, this actually seems like an issue that should bring all of America together. I would welcome anyone regardless of political party or personal faith to join us demanding pedophiles be removed from their positions of power and influence. I would hope Vance himself would be against pedophiles if he was asked directly by our organizations. If not, I would want to know why?
Minor-Attracted Person is an euphemism with LGBTQ+ aesthetics
Walter White in back seat of car: Jesse! Don't abbreviate Mothers Against Pedophilia! Jesse!!"
That would be a libel lawsuit
Antifa isn't a group.
There were never any witches, either.
I know conservatives never let facts stop them.
McCarthyism
Mcfascism
McFlurry
Don’t forget to order your membership card.
https://www.antifa.org/
I would expect nothing less from these Nazis.
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Is that Brittany Spears?
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I’m obsessed with this edit
I can't even figure out wtf I'm looking at
I wonder how long your passport will work if you voted Dem