Tesla said it didn’t have key data in a fatal crash. Then a hacker found it.
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It’s sad. You can avoid dying in a Tesla by not buying one. But you can’t do much about someone else’s Tesla hitting you.
The worst part is how much we've normalized getting lied to and gaslighted by companies, and we just accept it and expect it. We don't even complain about it anymore. We've run out of motivation to protest it.
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So they lied. And they'll lie again. And they'll get away with it.
Well they have to pay 200+ million. So im not sure if "get away" is the right word. But I get the sentiment. Its a tragedy.
"It took the jury less than a day of deliberation to find Tesla 33 percent liable for the crash and responsible for $243 million in punitive and compensatory damages."
Almost 100 billion revenue last year.
250 million of 100 billion is what… 0.25%?
Yeah. That’s nothing to them.
it never is. fines should be a percentage of the value of the company, not just some sum.
Value can easily be manipulated, it really should be based on 15% ish of their gross income
Or value, or XYZ whatever is largest.
In theory I agree, in practice I despise laws that are needlessly wordy, and including a whichever is larger clause will add on an unnecessary element since gross income can only be abused with tax credit shenanigans which aren't very over the top, and if I had my way wouldn't exist at all(fairy tale I know)
Well, net income already had plummeted 52% then. Let's see 2025 figures. Sales are down, down, down..
You'd need to do the math on net profit. Gross revenue is a pretty meaningless figure on its own.
Want to fine Twitter 10% for something horrible they did in 2020 using their net profit? You now owe Twitter 113 million.
That's why they said revenue, not profit. You never go for the net. Always go for the gross.
Or, y'know, don't do illegal things and it doesn't matter. That's the point of fines being a deterrent
For reference, here is a poem called the Narcissist's Prayer:
If I was on the jury or I was the judge in a non-jury trial and this happened, I would have pushed for the largest decision possible. No company or person should be allowed to act like this.
The jury basically did exactly that. They weren't buying Tesla's multi-year denial that they had the data as an "oopsy doopsy" story.
They found Tesla liable for $235 million. It's the first case Tesla hasent been able to settle, and that's a big ol' number. They are going to have more lawsuits coming.
You know what really ticks me off? Every driving Joe and Jane learns that negligence or ignorance or "clumsiness" does not excuse you from breaking the rules.
A very basic tenet of lawfulness. Which does not seem to apply to multi-billion-money-corpos.
And it’s strange, because corporations are sposto be people now right?
What a fucking joke.
Clear fraud and an attempt to undermine the American public.
Tesla and SpaceX are some of the largest welfare receivers in the country. But they refuse to take accountability or clean up their messes.
I'm sure whoever is in charge into the government, who will have no interests in this, is going to definitely look into Tesla. /s
Good article! Thanks for the archive link. Amazing that this type of shady shit which Tesla is doing is likewise behind a paywalled source where people can’t get this information as easily.
Basically too, Tesla has also tried to delete the data again by powering up the unit from the crash, which would have ‘updated’ the device and conveniently removed data. How STRANGE it maintains this behavior… especially for collision snapshots.
Tesla is actively harming people, lying about it, and using shitty tactics to avoid any responsibility for it. Just like its daddy, Elon.
Seriously. This is so fucked yo.
I’m NEVER EVER going to buy Tesla.
Nothing too surprising here
How does archive get the unpaywalled version? I don't think they pay the subscription for every single tabloid out there?
Asking for a friend.
The paywall is JavaScript but the content is still in plaintext below. The crawlers don’t read the JavaScript.
Disabling 3rd-party js has no paywall, but only the first paragraph too. Crawlers get full access?
I think they use the same thing that web crawlers use. If Google's crawler couldn't access the content of the page (or could only access a limited amount of content), it would likely rank far lower in search results
Btw, how come there is no search engine where you can sort and filter how you want instead of how they want? (except self-hosted i mean)
Pornhub has better searchability than, uh, all search sites i know.