PieFedDEBIAN 13: I could actually use it as my desktop, now!
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Numerfolt@thelinuxexperiment Thats what I thought when I saw the update notes, but then I would need to setup ZFS again...
Rick van den BerghUpgraded my server a few days ago. It was a smooth sail! I had to change some configs since internet access suddenly wasn't working when connected to WireGuard. Otherwise, very pleased with Debian as a home server!
No idea about the person(s) behind the channel, but I cannot take someone seriously if they're still recommending Proton these days.
MeldrikWhy not?
Recently they've been caught vibe coding with Claude and hiding the evidence (rewriting the repo's history) among other things (horrrific statements by their CEO e.g.)
Yeah, I've been using the free version for years, and have always expected to upgrade once I convince my wife we need to fully de-google. The CEO thing made me start looking for alternatives, and there are so many.
I'm curious if you're legitimately unaware of the issues with Proton, or if you're pretending. The former implies you're just not following the latest news and updates in privacy and security, and you're out of touch. That calls into question your expertise.
The latter suggests you have an agenda to promote Proton for whatever reason (I would assume it's just because they pay you, which isn't nefarious but it shades your advice). Either way, that calls into question your objectivity.
If it is the latter, and Proton is a sponsor, it would be better to simply be transparent, acknowledge the issues and tow the company line. Playing dumb is a bad look.
What makes you think I’m the author of the video?
The fact that you posted it in the first person. Why wouldn't I think that?
It’s a cross-post from the author’s PeerTube channel.
tomiant
I thought it was weird that you copy pasted all the ads...
What was stopping the person before? I've been using debian as my desktop for years.
pH3raWatching the video, the main reason is native up-to-date drivers, mostly for nvidia
I'm not into videos, but yeah ok, the person had a particular obnoxious computer that they wanted to use, rather than something being wrong with debian. I always take linux compatibility into account when buying hardware in the first place.
Same: just built a frankenstein PC of spare parts gathered with the purpose of running Debian 13 on it because that's what I love. But I also recognise that I know my way around stuff when I need to troubleshoot...
With flatpak and distrobox, the underlying system and package manager does not matter too much anymore to the end user.
Vanilla_PuddinFudgeAssuming most end users for Debian even have monitors connected...
bs-manager flatpak won't work, the AUR version does. That's more convincing than I'll ever need to go back to Arch.
Some people prefer to have a game mod manager working immediately, others prefer their system working for years instead of failing to boot after an update.
And then those who want both use arch. I know we love our memes, but this one is really out of date.
"For now", is more like it.
This happens with every refresh 😂 6 months from now you'll be fighting to get Mesa updated or something.
ExtremeUnicornIs that not in Backports?
If you're asking for problems, I suppose you could do that, but they still aren't updated regularly. Slightly before testing releases hit. That's nowhere near where it needs to be for gaming desktops for most people.
Backports are specifically tested for the purpose of being compatible with stable, so there should be no issues.
I can't really comment on what what gaming desktops need, I feel like you could absolutely play games without the latest drivers at all times, but I don't play any modern AAA games.
If you need bleeding edge software, then don't install Debian, for sure. Or go unstable with all the potential issues.
Ugh, too true. I'm using 13 now after a long hiatus of Windows only desktops and was shocked to find KDE had undergone yet another refresh.
yessikgI don't get this obsession with always having the latest and greatest. I'm more of a "if it isn't broke don't fix it" kind of person
It turns out that there isn't one big break, there are many small cracks that have been patched. I was reading about 13% performance increase in benchmarks, which seems significant.
Ah, here it is: https://www.phoronix.com/review/debian-13-benchmarks
If you have an nvidia card, which is very common and can't always be avoided, there is significant benefit in newer drivers, for one
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