Firefox is fine. The people running it are not.

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The best time to fire the entire board of directors and executive management was 15 years ago. The second best time is now.

IMHO they're purposely driving Mozilla into the ground for Google. Google just needs Firefox to prevent Chrome from being separated from Google, it doesn't need Firefox to be a good browser.

When they advocated for Google in the search antitrust case, that was powerful evidence of how captured the board has become. They care more about their fat paychecks

Devil's advocate:

Mozilla needs a fat paycheck or the whole show stops, we all lose and are forced to use a chrome-based browser. Firefox is the only real alternative and thanks to their work we have, in no particular order:

That doesn't mean Mozilla hasn't made bad decisions, they absolutely have. But to claim they should stop receiving nearly half a billion dollars every year from their competitor makes zero sense, especially considering developing a web browser is about as difficult as it gets. You'd be destroying the only alternative and helping Google mop the floor with the pieces that remain.

I get what you're saying, but it's suspicious how averse they are to other revenue sources. They allowed their subscription offerings to wither away over the years (I should know, I was a big enough sucker to stick with them as they let them rot with no new features), and do not take donations for their browser. They were also sitting on a billion in assets in 2023, so I'm not clear where the money has been going other than executive pay. Meanwhile, Thunderbird was given more autonomy and is thriving with record donation revenue. In fact, several projects that suffered under Mozilla found a second wind as soon as Mozilla gave up management, like Rust, Servo, Firefox OS (now KaiOS). Mozilla really should be totally reconstituted. Something is deeply wrong in the organization

Everything this article says it's true. Google needs to be forced to stop giving money to Mozilla. It's driven the org into the ground. When the decision supposed to be made? October? I hope Google loses and Mozilla wakes the fuck up.

Such an interesting topic. I’ll be surprised if Mozilla does more with less, though. They’ll probably just go the same route as Alphabet. Straight to the data brokers.

They're already going that direction. Mozilla needs a change of heart, not just a change of income

Can confirm. I run Firefox and am most definitely not fine.

Mozilla needs a plank, and then to be a co-op.

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Zzzzz. Does this community have anything else to offer other than these types of articles?

Totally agree with you. Seems like there's someone boothurt, who doesn't like Mozilla. Even if people kept posting articles like this, about something I don't really care for or like, like MS or Apple, or Google, I would become tired of them...

This is all: "I don't agree with their choices, and I know better"... sigh

Personally, I don't believe that people should be banished from discussing things unless they agree with them already. Otherwise, there's nothing to discuss. But if you don't like it when people speak disagreeably about things, are you not contributing to that exact same environment?

It's also unfair to assume that anyone who does not love everything about [product] automatically is a hater of [product]. I haven't seen any communities devoted to only praising Firefox, but you could certainly make one of your own.

Honestly I'm extremely disappointed in Lemmy over the past 6 months. It's turned into mostly AI slop, lazy clickbait articles, and political shitposting. I had high hopes for this platform but it's turning out to be straight dogshit. Most communities are trash now.

I can't say I disagree on that either... Sadly enough.

The people here are extremely toxic too. They make Reddit users look like model citizens.

I say Firefox should switch to a more permissive license like BSD, Apache or MIT.

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