Deleted posts and their comments can still be read

submitted by PieFed dev edited

I’ve made it so that when someone deletes their own post it is still viewable, including the comments. The post author and body will NOT be visible. Deleted posts will not show up in communities, search results, etc just as before - you need the URL of the post to get to it. Bookmark a deleted post within 7 days or it will be deleted for real.

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Ask your instance admin to upgrade to v1.4.4. Chances are they’ll be on 1.4.x already so this will be easy for them.

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by Piefed.social Staff edited depth: 1

Okay, so deleted posts remain present for a week - but only permanently secured if someone bookmarks it?

by PieFed dev OP depth: 2

Yep

by Piefed.social Staff depth: 3

Secured just locally?

by PieFed dev OP depth: 4

Ooooo, good point. Yeah, just locally.

Damn. Might need to do something more clever.

by Piefed.social Staff edited depth: 5

This is a tough one. Because although reddit technically maintains the post, it’s otherwise scrubbed. It won’t appear in search results and likely won’t be seen unless directly linked to after-the-fact.

In my mind ideally any user who self-deletes a post should only be tethering the link to the community it was posted in, and hiding that they initially posted it. But if a community moderator or instance admin deletes a post, it probably should be scrubbed entirely.

by PieFed dev OP depth: 6

Right, agreed, thanks.


If it helps, I would like if a community moderator had both options (for either a post or a comment) - to scrub entirely (for e.g. CSAM) or to just remove the link from the community along with OP’s content but leaving the responses that it spawned beneath it intact (and if possible, still viable). As a mod of a medium-to-small community on Reddit, I often had to remove posts yet still continued to discuss things with the OP, like the reason why I felt that I had to do it, and/or others could likewise continue the discussions that they had already started.

i.e., it would be good if content could be “owned” by the person who wrote it, subject to mod & admin approvals for how it may “fit in” at the community and instance levels. e.g., a reply is “content” that should not as readily disappear just because the OP was, or had to be, removed.

So that also overlaps into a second thing, the distinction between removing vs. locking - especially since we have no modmail here, and all the more so for communities that just say that the content was removed by a “mod”. e.g. someone posting and then going to bed or work could check in later to find their content removed, and as things now stand better than previously, at least get a sense of why it might have been (as opposed to simply a “not found” message on a white background screen OH MY EYES WHILE IN DARK MODE AAAAGGHH!!).

by Piefed.social Staff depth: 7

If it helps, I would like if a community moderator had both options (for either a post or a comment) - to scrub entirely (for e.g. CSAM) or to just remove the link from the community along with OP’s content but leaving the responses that it spawned beneath it intact

I would too, but I feel like this makes an already cluttered moderator tooltip space even more cluttered.



I have found posts from myself on reddit after having deleted all my reddit stuff multiple times. as far as I can tell it just hides it from the logged in user.





What happens if I’m the only one to have bookmarked the post, and then I unbookmarked it after a year? Is that post deleted or will it still be accessible as long as I have the URL?




Comments attached to a deleted post ought to remain available from the user pages of those who posted them indefinitely, bookmarked or not.

I’m not sure if Piefed works that way already, but I’m pretty sure Lemmy doesn’t and I don’t like it. Somebody else’s decision to delete their own shit should never result in the removal of mine.

by PieFed dev OP depth: 2

I hear ya



Does this apply to communities on lemmy, if we’re viewing from a piefed account? I’m not quite clear on whether this is being cached on the host instance or the individual federated instances.

by PieFed dev OP depth: 2

No, Lemmy will continue to do whatever it does.



This is huge. Honestly not knowing if a user deleted his post or it was deleted by mods has been wierd.


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