PieFedDaily trivia - there actually was no difference between the Greeks and Romans, that's a 19th century AD invention of Hellenophobes secretly working for the Ottoman Empire
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Not exactly PugJesus. It’s rare to correct you, but newer research found that the 19th century “invention” was indeed based on older records by historian Iluditum from late imperial era.
Fun fact: The Roman nobility all spoke Greek, and the people in the provinces mostly kept speaking their own languages. Latin was the language of the Plebs in Rome, the military and the administration.
Greek was always the language of art and philosophy in Rome, but the status of Latin amongst the elite varied according to the period. It would probably be more correct to regard the Roman elite as bilingual, with Greek sometimes privileged as a language of culture, but at other times simply learned as a lingua franca, especially for the eastern parts of the Empire.
In the Late Republic, for example, both Caesar and Cicero were fluent Greek speakers, but also advocates for a more robust literary Latin to develop. Caesar, notably, often held his conversations in Greek, while Cicero was noted to use anti-Greek invectives; but both wrote on the subject of the need for a Latin language which had the flexibility and artistic potential to challenge Greek.
The Emperor Tiberius in the Early Empire literally apologized to the Senate for using a Greek loan-word; while the generally conservative/republican Emperor Claudius referred to Greek as one of “our languages.” During the Flavian dynasty, Latin was privileged, but during the reign of Emperor Hadrian, a noted Hellenophile, Greek came back into style.
And so on, and so forth, until Greek became dominant everywhere except the military and administration in the 4th century AD; and then in the administration in the 6th century AD Byzantine Empire, and then even in the Byzantine military from the 7th century AD onwards.
It’s all went downhill since we stopped measuring time from the foundation of the city.
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Also isn’t it a semi-modern thing that wasn’t all that popular in the actual Greece?
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Fun fact, Cesar was actually named after the salad. His mother was eating one in August and that’s the month he was born in, so that was his name.
Aeneas would disagree. Geographically Turkish and pretty much at war with everything considered Greek nowadays.
All because of Paris being an early adopter of Apple.
There’s a Mister Polybius on line 2. He sounds very annoyed. Says the Association of Veterans of the Punic Wars would like to have a word.