Plus, Iāll tip $1-2 for a fancy cocktail even if the service is crappy, because those take time to make, so I donāt really need to know what the service is like ahead of time unless itās incredible. This sounds like it wasnāt though.
And they should be getting paid for that time no matter what. No tip needed unless they are putting on a special show or gave you suggestions you needed.
Iāve been a server at multiple types of establishment in multiple countries. The only time anyone ever fucked with someoneās food/drink, it was because the customer had jumped one of the servers in the restaurant the week before and beaten the shit out of them.
I will tip for good service at a restaurant. I really try to do cash because it is common for management to steal all or a portion of the tips.
I just had this discussion with my wife yesterday when I got a Subway sub for her. When I went to pay it asked for a percentage based tip. Keep in mind this sub was $16 where I live.
I hate that corporations are underpaying their workers and trying to guilt you into giving them a tip which they then promptly steal.
People: āI am NOT paying my barista a tip for this, what do you MEAN they DEMAND a tip.ā
Meanwhile the Barista is being paid less than US$3 an hour because in America, you can be paid that and be expected to reach minimum wage through tips if you work food service. Want to end that? Demand that food service workers be paid minimum wage at the very least. Donāt want to do even that? Then stop getting fast food.
No, this will not raise the price of food in any meaningful way.
No, these are not all teens, the average age of a minimum wage worker is 40.
No, this will not raise the price of goods generally. Wages have remained stagnant and the price of goods have risen regardless.
Donāt want to do even that? Then stop getting fast food.
Not to take away from your point, but fast food workers get minimum wage, theyāre not subject to the slave wages food service workers have to deal with. They get the moderately better minimum, rather than hoping tips makes it to minimum.
Iām not aware of anywhere that pays (or is even allowed to pay) baristas what waiters and bartenders get. There may be exceptions. This post seems to be about literally anyplace with a new POS having basically options for 20-30% tips, despite the person behind it making like $15 an hour (at least where I live). Fortunately, lately, Iāll have the person reach around and press the āno tipā button often enough, since itās usually the least obvious option available.
$15/hr still isnāt a living wage in most places, just for the record. Itās better than server wages for sure, but itās not stable-life-level income.
Youād be surprised. Iāve seen tons of fast food/counter service places that have tips enabled on the POS. And I sure as shit am not tipping at any place that I have to get my food from the counter.
I begrudgingly tip at ārealā food/drink establishments, since Iām societally handcuffed to supporting worker slavery wages in restaurants when I go there, but fuck literally every other establishment that asks for tips.
And I really need to get it through one of my partnersā heads that we should not be tipping minimum wage places, the org most likely pockets most of not all of that and the workers donāt see shit.
No bro, never implied that. You can criticize enshittification and the āletās transform everything into sales, lootbox-mechanics and subscriptionsā attitude without blaming the fucking workers
Because the employees fight to keep themselves down and guilt us into helping keep them down. Look at how many people were fighting to make tips tax free instead of just paying people more.
Thats such a gross generalization. Does it happen? Yes totally, but the meme propagates a stereotype that the average (if not every) cafe worker is like this.
Thats my main issue with a meme like this, is that it normalizes mocking and belittling a class.
Would you for instance find it okay if we substituted ātipsā for āchangeā and ābaristaā for āa homeless personā?
OPās post is punching down (which OP said they find funny, even though they donāt seem to agree with the idea that workers are to blame - thatās not sarcasm, thatās just OP being and weirdo IMO), while the very obviously sarcastic comment is treated as if itās serious.
Bro out here supporting post-slavery era policies, instead of realizing this is one of the many ways the rich keep us poor and fighting amongst ourselves.
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Then I hope the barista is patient, because theyāre gonna be waiting a long time ā¦
I once went to a fancy rooftop bar where I was asked to pay in full (with tip) up front for a cocktail. No idea how that place is still in business.
Honestly, I kinda prefer that in bars? Means you can just walk off and not worry about paying once youāre done.
Plus, Iāll tip $1-2 for a fancy cocktail even if the service is crappy, because those take time to make, so I donāt really need to know what the service is like ahead of time unless itās incredible. This sounds like it wasnāt though.
Yeah but what if the cocktail sucks
They still put the effort in. If itās sloppy or poorly made and the bars not busy, I donāt get another one.
It was $18.
Then I probably wouldnāt go, but I donāt go and not tip because the menu is expensive.
In my experience, if youāre a regular tipping that amount you will usually end up getting stronger drinks after the first few visits.
At one bar we had to ask them to stop because it was basically like drinking a glass of liquor.
And they should be getting paid for that time no matter what. No tip needed unless they are putting on a special show or gave you suggestions you needed.
The problem is do you know what those servers will do to your drink if they feel you did not tip enough!
Iāve been a server at multiple types of establishment in multiple countries. The only time anyone ever fucked with someoneās food/drink, it was because the customer had jumped one of the servers in the restaurant the week before and beaten the shit out of them.
Places that pull that bullshit get a one star enraged review from me and are never visited again
I will tip for good service at a restaurant. I really try to do cash because it is common for management to steal all or a portion of the tips.
I just had this discussion with my wife yesterday when I got a Subway sub for her. When I went to pay it asked for a percentage based tip. Keep in mind this sub was $16 where I live.
I hate that corporations are underpaying their workers and trying to guilt you into giving them a tip which they then promptly steal.
Fast food workers like subsay arenāt generally arenāt tipped or paid under minimum
The US are completely dystopian
Iāve never paid a single tip in my life.
Donāt visit the USA
Right before she compliments you on your stupid shirt to distract you.
People: āI am NOT paying my barista a tip for this, what do you MEAN they DEMAND a tip.ā
Meanwhile the Barista is being paid less than US$3 an hour because in America, you can be paid that and be expected to reach minimum wage through tips if you work food service. Want to end that? Demand that food service workers be paid minimum wage at the very least. Donāt want to do even that? Then stop getting fast food.
Not to take away from your point, but fast food workers get minimum wage, theyāre not subject to the slave wages food service workers have to deal with. They get the moderately better minimum, rather than hoping tips makes it to minimum.
Yeah I was like wait, now we have to tip at Taco Bell? Fuck this country.
Give it a few years, I wouldnāt be surprised
To be fair, I donāt think baristas get the ~$3 minimum wage. Not Starbucks workers at least. Still a valid point though.
Iām sorry, by if they work at Starbucks, theyāre not baristas
OK cool. Theyāre still not making $3/hour.
Iām not aware of anywhere that pays (or is even allowed to pay) baristas what waiters and bartenders get. There may be exceptions. This post seems to be about literally anyplace with a new POS having basically options for 20-30% tips, despite the person behind it making like $15 an hour (at least where I live). Fortunately, lately, Iāll have the person reach around and press the āno tipā button often enough, since itās usually the least obvious option available.
$15/hr still isnāt a living wage in most places, just for the record. Itās better than server wages for sure, but itās not stable-life-level income.
Fast food isnāt a place that typically solicits tips or pays tip wages. Sit down restaurants with waiters and bar tenders are where this occurs.
Youād be surprised. Iāve seen tons of fast food/counter service places that have tips enabled on the POS. And I sure as shit am not tipping at any place that I have to get my food from the counter.
I begrudgingly tip at ārealā food/drink establishments, since Iām societally handcuffed to supporting worker slavery wages in restaurants when I go there, but fuck literally every other establishment that asks for tips.
And I really need to get it through one of my partnersā heads that we should not be tipping minimum wage places, the org most likely pockets most of not all of that and the workers donāt see shit.
I am the same mantra as you. If you are being paid tip wages, then Iāll tipā¦if not hell no.
We donāt allow this in WA for instance.
Big up Western Australia
Pretty obviously in context Washington state
Ahh yes. The barista that personally selected and programmed their storeās POS system.
Dog they just work there.
Responded to a guy that deleted his comment so itās not visible anymore. Making fun of the system itself, barrista has nothing to be blamed about
That mightāve been the intention, but the text of the meme targets the barista, not their boss or the system itself.
dudeās got a threehead
If they ask for tips itās zero.
Ahahah poor bad! Amiright?
No bro, never implied that. You can criticize enshittification and the āletās transform everything into sales, lootbox-mechanics and subscriptionsā attitude without blaming the fucking workers
And yet here you are, mocking the workers.
I think being a hyporcite would mean not posting what I find funny out of fear of looking like a hypocrite
Employers not paying a living wage bad.
And yet the meme is mocking the worker not the employer š¤
Because the employees fight to keep themselves down and guilt us into helping keep them down. Look at how many people were fighting to make tips tax free instead of just paying people more.
Thats such a gross generalization. Does it happen? Yes totally, but the meme propagates a stereotype that the average (if not every) cafe worker is like this.
Thats my main issue with a meme like this, is that it normalizes mocking and belittling a class.
Would you for instance find it okay if we substituted ātipsā for āchangeā and ābaristaā for āa homeless personā?
No. Systemic oppression that caused the concept of tipping bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
yeah. you TOTALLY thought it was sarcasm. You didnt think it was serious at all.
OPās post is punching down (which OP said they find funny, even though they donāt seem to agree with the idea that workers are to blame - thatās not sarcasm, thatās just OP being and weirdo IMO), while the very obviously sarcastic comment is treated as if itās serious.
Bro out here supporting post-slavery era policies, instead of realizing this is one of the many ways the rich keep us poor and fighting amongst ourselves.