PieFedEvery hero has a weakness (AnonHistory)
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Explanation: Julius Caesar, of conqueror and dictator fame, was sent early in his career as an emissary to the foreign court of King Nicomedes of Bithynia. Their closeness during this assignment would lead to rumors of him having an affair with the king - itself not all the notable… except that he was rumored to have been the BOTTOM! 😲
These rumors would dog him all of his life, with even his own beloved soldiers singing “Caesar has conquered Gaul, but Nicomedes conquered Caesar” decades later, and his enemies referring to him as “Queen of Bithynia” and “Every woman’s man, and every man’s woman” in reference to his rampant adultery with women as well. He was a bit sensitive to it - perhaps not unfairly, considering how little it could take to sink a political career - going so far as to deny the affair under oath (unprompted, decades later, which itself prompted more speculation…).
It’s uncertain whether Caesar actually had an affair with Nicomedes of any sort, or with men at all - though some of Caesar’s mannerisms are noted by several contemporaries as indicative of (passive/bottoming) homosexuality, this may just be slander. Roman politicians LOVED petty personal slander, like, real high school level shit from people whose speeches are still read today as classics of oratory and literature. It’s a bit hilarious.
Certainly, Caesar had a known taste for beautiful women, but that - neither in modern nor Roman conceptions of sexuality - precludes significant attraction to men as well. In any case, the notable bit was the rumor about him being the bottom - were he the top in a male-male affair, having thus PRESERVED the DIGNITY of his CITIZENSHIP, it would have been entirely unremarkable!
Oh, and Achilles is a figure in Greek mythology (the Illiad) whose only weak spot is his heel (thus, Achilles’ Heel still meaning ‘a particular weakness’); Samson is a figure in Abrahamic mythology whose power was granted to him by YHWH on the condition that he did not shave his head - which one of his wives did to deliver him to his enemies.
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Explanation: Julius Caesar, of conqueror and dictator fame, was sent early in his career as an emissary to the foreign court of King Nicomedes of Bithynia. Their closeness during this assignment would lead to rumors of him having an affair with the king - itself not all the notable… except that he was rumored to have been the BOTTOM! 😲
These rumors would dog him all of his life, with even his own beloved soldiers singing “Caesar has conquered Gaul, but Nicomedes conquered Caesar” decades later, and his enemies referring to him as “Queen of Bithynia” and “Every woman’s man, and every man’s woman” in reference to his rampant adultery with women as well. He was a bit sensitive to it - perhaps not unfairly, considering how little it could take to sink a political career - going so far as to deny the affair under oath (unprompted, decades later, which itself prompted more speculation…).
It’s uncertain whether Caesar actually had an affair with Nicomedes of any sort, or with men at all - though some of Caesar’s mannerisms are noted by several contemporaries as indicative of (passive/bottoming) homosexuality, this may just be slander. Roman politicians LOVED petty personal slander, like, real high school level shit from people whose speeches are still read today as classics of oratory and literature. It’s a bit hilarious.
Certainly, Caesar had a known taste for beautiful women, but that - neither in modern nor Roman conceptions of sexuality - precludes significant attraction to men as well. In any case, the notable bit was the rumor about him being the bottom - were he the top in a male-male affair, having thus PRESERVED the DIGNITY of his CITIZENSHIP, it would have been entirely unremarkable!
Oh, and Achilles is a figure in Greek mythology (the Illiad) whose only weak spot is his heel (thus, Achilles’ Heel still meaning ‘a particular weakness’); Samson is a figure in Abrahamic mythology whose power was granted to him by YHWH on the condition that he did not shave his head - which one of his wives did to deliver him to his enemies.
Really weird how much the Romans admired the Greeks but were homophobic. A great example from this post is Achilles who had a special relationship with Patroclus.
Tbf, the Romans could swing between despising the Greeks (IMPRACTICAL, TREACHEROUS, SERVILE, OVERCLEVER) and admiring them (cultured, principled, orderly, intelligent!) without skipping a beat. And also to be fair, the bottomphobia is related to a very… particular facet of Roman culture. If you were a citizen (or, even more concerningly, a citizen-soldier), to protect your body from ‘violation’ was to protect the REPUBLIC from violation. It was a matter of the HONOR of the REPUBLIC!
If you were a provincial or a foreigner who was a bottom? Who cared? You don’t represent the Republic. But if you were a CITIZEN who was a bottom…
Well, you’d get talked about a bit. Bad for your social life and political career, but nothing to the tune of being ostracized from decent society, or being punished.
Just make sure no one thinks you perform oral sex, or the jokes about your bad breath will never stop - Romans believed that you could smell dick on the breath of a regular fellator, male or female…
And Greece wasn’t that different. A man could have sex with a younger boy without trouble; but he had the be the active one. There are examples of adult men sharing a loving life publicly, as equals, but it was not possible in every city, nor at every epoch.
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Thank you for the info. Very educational.